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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 489007" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>The appointment with the attny was on Tues- I posted about it in an earlier thread.</p><p></p><p>This fed funding isn't automatic- the local jurisdiction applies for the grant annually. Apparently, this place applied for the long-term re-entry- what I called services under grant "A". I'll have to try to find a paper trail to see if any place around here applied for ssomething under grant "C". If they did, that might be arguement in court as to why PO went to something more extreme for difficult child instead of the less restrictive placement that allowed/promoted reunification with family.</p><p></p><p>That's not changing the system , I know.</p><p></p><p>However, I still think it's worth letting more people know- higher ups, public, whomever will listen- that some of this isn't playing out as intended. IOW, a 4th anger management program for difficult child doesn't help him transition back into the home and community the way some other things would. The 'other things' really need to be tailored to each individual kid, and not a particular cookie-cutter 'program'. difficult child has to do an anger management program in Department of Juvenile Justice, which he's doing now, in order to 'earn' his way out of incarceration. This is the same thing they required him to do the first time he was in Department of Juvenile Justice. He'd already had one out-patient while on probation, then the one in his first stint, now one in his 2nd stint, but they want me to buy into a 4th one like it will do it if he's in a long-term group home? All that does is throw in something that ties him up in the system until he ages out of it. The reason it's an anger management program in the group home is because that's all they do- which is what they did when they called it a diversion program. Makes sense as a diversion program- doesn't make sense to me to call it a re-entry/transitional program intended to help kids coming out of Department of Juvenile Justice re-integrate back into the real world. To me, that is the evidence/proof that all they did is take a diversion program and slap a title of 're-entry program" on top of it in order to qualify for that fed grant.</p><p></p><p>In the simplest terms, each one of the grants- whether for a diversion program, long term re-entry plan, short term re-entry- have different criteria in order to qualify for fed funding. The local jurisdiction has to submit their plan for meeting the criteria for whichever funding they are applying for. BUT apparently, the only verificattion that this criteria is actually carried out ITRW is the local jurisdiction self-reporting what they did and the results/statistics, and a financial audit annually. I think this is where the loophole is. They should have someone actually looking into exactly what the local poeple are doing with this money, in my humble opinion.</p><p></p><p>There's a big difference between hiring a behavior counselor to do an anger management program and doing something that helps the kid feel likes he fits in at school, home, community. There is no one checking to see what the person has done. They only check to see that they hired and paid for a behavior counselor. That part is self-reported by the agency suppsoedly providing the service. The fed grant requires the funding go to helping the kid reenter society, if the grant applied for was the re-entry grant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 489007, member: 3699"] The appointment with the attny was on Tues- I posted about it in an earlier thread. This fed funding isn't automatic- the local jurisdiction applies for the grant annually. Apparently, this place applied for the long-term re-entry- what I called services under grant "A". I'll have to try to find a paper trail to see if any place around here applied for ssomething under grant "C". If they did, that might be arguement in court as to why PO went to something more extreme for difficult child instead of the less restrictive placement that allowed/promoted reunification with family. That's not changing the system , I know. However, I still think it's worth letting more people know- higher ups, public, whomever will listen- that some of this isn't playing out as intended. IOW, a 4th anger management program for difficult child doesn't help him transition back into the home and community the way some other things would. The 'other things' really need to be tailored to each individual kid, and not a particular cookie-cutter 'program'. difficult child has to do an anger management program in Department of Juvenile Justice, which he's doing now, in order to 'earn' his way out of incarceration. This is the same thing they required him to do the first time he was in Department of Juvenile Justice. He'd already had one out-patient while on probation, then the one in his first stint, now one in his 2nd stint, but they want me to buy into a 4th one like it will do it if he's in a long-term group home? All that does is throw in something that ties him up in the system until he ages out of it. The reason it's an anger management program in the group home is because that's all they do- which is what they did when they called it a diversion program. Makes sense as a diversion program- doesn't make sense to me to call it a re-entry/transitional program intended to help kids coming out of Department of Juvenile Justice re-integrate back into the real world. To me, that is the evidence/proof that all they did is take a diversion program and slap a title of 're-entry program" on top of it in order to qualify for that fed grant. In the simplest terms, each one of the grants- whether for a diversion program, long term re-entry plan, short term re-entry- have different criteria in order to qualify for fed funding. The local jurisdiction has to submit their plan for meeting the criteria for whichever funding they are applying for. BUT apparently, the only verificattion that this criteria is actually carried out ITRW is the local jurisdiction self-reporting what they did and the results/statistics, and a financial audit annually. I think this is where the loophole is. They should have someone actually looking into exactly what the local poeple are doing with this money, in my humble opinion. There's a big difference between hiring a behavior counselor to do an anger management program and doing something that helps the kid feel likes he fits in at school, home, community. There is no one checking to see what the person has done. They only check to see that they hired and paid for a behavior counselor. That part is self-reported by the agency suppsoedly providing the service. The fed grant requires the funding go to helping the kid reenter society, if the grant applied for was the re-entry grant. [/QUOTE]
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