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<blockquote data-quote="DarkwingPsyduck" data-source="post: 686160" data-attributes="member: 20267"><p>I wouldn't say you can't help him break it. It just needs to start with a decision that is his. Are you asking if I think the effects of the drug use has affected my mental and emotional state to this day? That's got to be true on some level. Opiates provide the euphoria they do because they force the brain to over produce endorphin. After sustained continuous use, the brain stops producing it on its own at all. So the only source for the endorphin IS the drug. The symptoms felt during detox is largely due to the brain's inability to produce normal amounts of it. It repairs itself over time, but until it does, it is difficult to find enjoyment out of ANYTHING. This includes activities I always enjoyed. Sex, for instance. I had no sex drive for a few months after I stopped the Suboxone. I cannot accurately say what the permanent effects of the drug use will be, as I can't really compare how I feel right now with how I felt back before all of this. I can say that I feel better than I have during the years of using it. That is an easy comparison to make. Maybe I am noticeably different, but not all the differences are necessarily a bad thing, either. I remember feeling like I would NEVER be able to find enjoyment out of anything. And it has been a long and slow process, but there is that point, where it is as bad as it will be, then it gets better. I am at that part right now. Sounds to me like your son is still right there at the tipping point. He may need to get a little bit worse before he gets better. But he isn't just gone forever. He may be noticeably different even after some real clean time, but we are shaped by our experiences. And not all of them are for the better. They are still apart of us. I hope he gets to this point soon. Before, I knew every day was going to be considerably worse than the one before it. Now every day is better than the one before it. Just gotta be willing to deal with the bad ones first, which is scary as hell for somebody who simply isn't equipped to deal with hardship in a healthy way. It's why rock bottom is so often necessary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkwingPsyduck, post: 686160, member: 20267"] I wouldn't say you can't help him break it. It just needs to start with a decision that is his. Are you asking if I think the effects of the drug use has affected my mental and emotional state to this day? That's got to be true on some level. Opiates provide the euphoria they do because they force the brain to over produce endorphin. After sustained continuous use, the brain stops producing it on its own at all. So the only source for the endorphin IS the drug. The symptoms felt during detox is largely due to the brain's inability to produce normal amounts of it. It repairs itself over time, but until it does, it is difficult to find enjoyment out of ANYTHING. This includes activities I always enjoyed. Sex, for instance. I had no sex drive for a few months after I stopped the Suboxone. I cannot accurately say what the permanent effects of the drug use will be, as I can't really compare how I feel right now with how I felt back before all of this. I can say that I feel better than I have during the years of using it. That is an easy comparison to make. Maybe I am noticeably different, but not all the differences are necessarily a bad thing, either. I remember feeling like I would NEVER be able to find enjoyment out of anything. And it has been a long and slow process, but there is that point, where it is as bad as it will be, then it gets better. I am at that part right now. Sounds to me like your son is still right there at the tipping point. He may need to get a little bit worse before he gets better. But he isn't just gone forever. He may be noticeably different even after some real clean time, but we are shaped by our experiences. And not all of them are for the better. They are still apart of us. I hope he gets to this point soon. Before, I knew every day was going to be considerably worse than the one before it. Now every day is better than the one before it. Just gotta be willing to deal with the bad ones first, which is scary as hell for somebody who simply isn't equipped to deal with hardship in a healthy way. It's why rock bottom is so often necessary. [/QUOTE]
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