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<blockquote data-quote="Lil" data-source="post: 631560" data-attributes="member: 17309"><p>Well...what he wanted, without saying it in so many words, was an allowance and car access. He even came right out and said he'd give us his first paycheck. We said no. The offer to drive him was to shut him up...you're right. It was, "This is as good as it gets. Take it or leave it." </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>He's ALWAYS been like this. His babysitter's when he was a toddler and young child said he was the most stubborn and <em>dramatic</em> child they'd ever seen. We thought he'd outgrow it, and he has in part. The black moods like yesterday are actually fairly few. Maybe once every few weeks...sometimes much more frequently. Only once has he ever been so down that it frightened us when he was 18 and left home over stealing. Came home a week later broke, freezing, having sold his laptop for cash and apparently getting the money stolen. We basically forced him into the ER and then therapy...but he lied to the therapist and wouldn't take the antidepressants then left for college a few months later. We'd thought things were better...a lot went into that college decision, but my point is...he's never been so down for such a long time we considered it depression or bipolar. </p><p> </p><p>You're right though. He's 19 and he has to be open to therapy for it to do any good. I've told him over and over that he doesn't handle things well and he needs a therapist, not a mother who's a lawyer, to give him better ideas on how to cope. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Actually, I'm leaving work about 11, having lunch with old friends and getting my hair cut. Since I don't have to work and don't want to be home...I think I'll find something else fun to do. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lil, post: 631560, member: 17309"] Well...what he wanted, without saying it in so many words, was an allowance and car access. He even came right out and said he'd give us his first paycheck. We said no. The offer to drive him was to shut him up...you're right. It was, "This is as good as it gets. Take it or leave it." He's ALWAYS been like this. His babysitter's when he was a toddler and young child said he was the most stubborn and [I]dramatic[/I] child they'd ever seen. We thought he'd outgrow it, and he has in part. The black moods like yesterday are actually fairly few. Maybe once every few weeks...sometimes much more frequently. Only once has he ever been so down that it frightened us when he was 18 and left home over stealing. Came home a week later broke, freezing, having sold his laptop for cash and apparently getting the money stolen. We basically forced him into the ER and then therapy...but he lied to the therapist and wouldn't take the antidepressants then left for college a few months later. We'd thought things were better...a lot went into that college decision, but my point is...he's never been so down for such a long time we considered it depression or bipolar. You're right though. He's 19 and he has to be open to therapy for it to do any good. I've told him over and over that he doesn't handle things well and he needs a therapist, not a mother who's a lawyer, to give him better ideas on how to cope. Actually, I'm leaving work about 11, having lunch with old friends and getting my hair cut. Since I don't have to work and don't want to be home...I think I'll find something else fun to do. :) [/QUOTE]
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