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I have been embarrassed to tell you...Nina's having puppy's.
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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 517322" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Janet, DON"T be ashamed!! Animals have a very strong biological drive to procreate, at least as strong as humans feel. and what lengths do humans go to in order to have children? So yes, spaying her would have been good, but given the vet situation in your area, it is understandable that she hasn't been. You didn't turn her loose or dump her somewhere when she got pregnant and you didn't take her to a vet to have them aborted. My big problem with animal abortion is that the animal has no choice and it is so terribly terribly dangerous for animals. It is far safer for humans and humans have choices. MANY animals die if they are spayed while pregnant or are given an abortion because the owner doesn't want the hassle of babies and didn't or wouldn't get them spayed/neutered. Vets don't talk about this much but it is reality. We have a vet school here and I know a lot of the instructors and the students and have for years. They all get so furious when a pet owner insists on an abortion or on spaying a pregnant female because it is so much more dangerous for the animal. </p><p></p><p>You are being a good pet owner and I am sure whatever you feel is right will work out fine. At least you won't go yelling at the poor dog for bleeding when she is in heat or at the puppies if they get pee/poop in the house. My brother did that with the many litters his dog has had and they were ALL traumatized by the time he moved them outside. He also have a VERY bad name among people who love dogs here because he claims that they are ALL pure border collies because he has a male and a female both un-altered. But he keeps the female in the backyard and the male not only goes most places with him but also is the least dominant dog I ahve ever met. The puppy my mom got from him is maybe going to be 30 punds soaking wet if she gets fat and is in NO WAY a pure border collie. She doesn't look much like a border at all except for the hyperness. I have been told other things about it, and there are several people who got puppies from him who now leave notes on any signs he puts up advertising his puppies. It takes a LOT for people to care enough to do that, and I took some pics of the signs at one point and there are at least 3 different people because the handwriting is very different. </p><p></p><p>So you have NOTHING to be ashamed of. I do think you need to do the vaccines, and witz is right. Go to the feed store and you can get them far cheaper than if you went to a vet. If you want help figuring out the dose for a puppy, I can help find the info online. My neighbors all do this for their pets and it is super easy. For several years I did my cats, my parents cats and brother's dog (before I cut ties with him) and we did 7 animals for less than what the vet charged for one animal. Including buying the syringes and gloves. I insist on gloves so I don't carry things from one dog to the next, but a lot of people don't. </p><p></p><p>Enjoy the puppies!! Feed Nina puppy food and get that at the feed store too. I don't go for science diet, instead go for a puppy food or a food with meat in it. Around here the feed store has a brand that is really good and we also get Taste of the Wild that has real meat and a very high rating on that dog food site taht Donna posted a while back. I haven't had an animal that didn't love TOTW and it helps keep them in top health because it has food they can really digest and use instead of a lot of filler and low quality food. Just keep Nina's dish full and make sure she has a LOT of fresh water. You might want to consider one of those water dishes that has a reservoir so that you don't have to fill it as often but it stays fresh. Some of the inexpensive ones let you attach a 2liter soda bottle to them as the reservoir.</p><p></p><p>Enjoy the puppies and send us pictures!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 517322, member: 1233"] Janet, DON"T be ashamed!! Animals have a very strong biological drive to procreate, at least as strong as humans feel. and what lengths do humans go to in order to have children? So yes, spaying her would have been good, but given the vet situation in your area, it is understandable that she hasn't been. You didn't turn her loose or dump her somewhere when she got pregnant and you didn't take her to a vet to have them aborted. My big problem with animal abortion is that the animal has no choice and it is so terribly terribly dangerous for animals. It is far safer for humans and humans have choices. MANY animals die if they are spayed while pregnant or are given an abortion because the owner doesn't want the hassle of babies and didn't or wouldn't get them spayed/neutered. Vets don't talk about this much but it is reality. We have a vet school here and I know a lot of the instructors and the students and have for years. They all get so furious when a pet owner insists on an abortion or on spaying a pregnant female because it is so much more dangerous for the animal. You are being a good pet owner and I am sure whatever you feel is right will work out fine. At least you won't go yelling at the poor dog for bleeding when she is in heat or at the puppies if they get pee/poop in the house. My brother did that with the many litters his dog has had and they were ALL traumatized by the time he moved them outside. He also have a VERY bad name among people who love dogs here because he claims that they are ALL pure border collies because he has a male and a female both un-altered. But he keeps the female in the backyard and the male not only goes most places with him but also is the least dominant dog I ahve ever met. The puppy my mom got from him is maybe going to be 30 punds soaking wet if she gets fat and is in NO WAY a pure border collie. She doesn't look much like a border at all except for the hyperness. I have been told other things about it, and there are several people who got puppies from him who now leave notes on any signs he puts up advertising his puppies. It takes a LOT for people to care enough to do that, and I took some pics of the signs at one point and there are at least 3 different people because the handwriting is very different. So you have NOTHING to be ashamed of. I do think you need to do the vaccines, and witz is right. Go to the feed store and you can get them far cheaper than if you went to a vet. If you want help figuring out the dose for a puppy, I can help find the info online. My neighbors all do this for their pets and it is super easy. For several years I did my cats, my parents cats and brother's dog (before I cut ties with him) and we did 7 animals for less than what the vet charged for one animal. Including buying the syringes and gloves. I insist on gloves so I don't carry things from one dog to the next, but a lot of people don't. Enjoy the puppies!! Feed Nina puppy food and get that at the feed store too. I don't go for science diet, instead go for a puppy food or a food with meat in it. Around here the feed store has a brand that is really good and we also get Taste of the Wild that has real meat and a very high rating on that dog food site taht Donna posted a while back. I haven't had an animal that didn't love TOTW and it helps keep them in top health because it has food they can really digest and use instead of a lot of filler and low quality food. Just keep Nina's dish full and make sure she has a LOT of fresh water. You might want to consider one of those water dishes that has a reservoir so that you don't have to fill it as often but it stays fresh. Some of the inexpensive ones let you attach a 2liter soda bottle to them as the reservoir. Enjoy the puppies and send us pictures! [/QUOTE]
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