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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 379316" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Here in Australia, the support is worst in our high schools. Primary school (aka elementary) have variable quality support; the biggest hurdle is identifying the kids who need it. If the parent relies on the school system, they will generally be let down because every kid identified as needing help, is a kid who is going to cost the system dearly. Where they can, they fudge results to make the kid seem as normal as possible, on paper. It therefore would get 'diagnosed' as a behaviour problem, generally the parents' fault.</p><p></p><p>But where you get a good independent diagnosis of autism - the attitude to the child is one of "psychiatric disorder".</p><p></p><p>Secondary school for us starts at about age 11. Your Middle School equates with the first few years of our high schools. Our senior high school overlaps with your college. Our college is another transition but qualifies as tertiary.</p><p></p><p>The worst support in our system in Australia is in high school. Autism and similar disorders (including ADHD) are defined as psychiatric disorders. It leads to a lot of hurt, a lot of misunderstanding and a lot of teachers refusing to help or follow through, because of either fear, or misunderstanding, or intolerance of mental illness.</p><p></p><p>Tertiary - it is classified as neurological illness. However, psychiatric illness students get seen by the same department of counselling support. But they know what they are doing, they are compassionate. And frankly by then, there is a huge psychological overlay in the autistic kids, after all the stuffing around that has happened through their primary and secondary schooling.</p><p></p><p>[recap - primary = elementary. Secondary = high school (includes middle school). Tertiary - all education that happens after you finish school. Includes apprenticeship colleges and other trade education because that can shortcut university entrance.]</p><p></p><p>There is a woman we know locally, who has a reputation for being a troublemaker. She gets onto various local fundraising committees but is so incompetent and so difficult to work with, that a lot of these things get sabotaged. She comes along afterwards then tries to take credit for it all; after a while people get wise to her. She lies unbelievably. At one point she made accusations about the former school principal, was telling a lot of people some rubbish about the guy that was patently untrue, but some people were believing it. She even began to believe it herself. She also has been saying things about herself that she "supervises university students." That one made it into parliament, when our local politician sang her praises in an important public service nomination. From what we have been able to determine, she does NOT work as a university lecturer; instead, the place where she works (probably as a cleaner, or minor secretary) has had a uni student do some prac work there and she met the student one day in the tea room. This woman has no credentials, but sells herself big. It's only afterwards that people discover they've been burned.</p><p></p><p>Those of us who know this woman were aghast at the nomination for public service. She's not a worker; she's s saboteur. She finally had the principal confront her on what she was saying, he was apoplectic when he heard.</p><p></p><p>Then last week, our local politician who had nominated her so publicly, got exposed for corruption and other nasty stuff. She is apparently involved. Couldn't happen to nicer people. We're not telling the media, because this woman would even find negative publicity to be a good thing. But we think it will eventually come out anyway. Just waiting, and watching.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 379316, member: 1991"] Here in Australia, the support is worst in our high schools. Primary school (aka elementary) have variable quality support; the biggest hurdle is identifying the kids who need it. If the parent relies on the school system, they will generally be let down because every kid identified as needing help, is a kid who is going to cost the system dearly. Where they can, they fudge results to make the kid seem as normal as possible, on paper. It therefore would get 'diagnosed' as a behaviour problem, generally the parents' fault. But where you get a good independent diagnosis of autism - the attitude to the child is one of "psychiatric disorder". Secondary school for us starts at about age 11. Your Middle School equates with the first few years of our high schools. Our senior high school overlaps with your college. Our college is another transition but qualifies as tertiary. The worst support in our system in Australia is in high school. Autism and similar disorders (including ADHD) are defined as psychiatric disorders. It leads to a lot of hurt, a lot of misunderstanding and a lot of teachers refusing to help or follow through, because of either fear, or misunderstanding, or intolerance of mental illness. Tertiary - it is classified as neurological illness. However, psychiatric illness students get seen by the same department of counselling support. But they know what they are doing, they are compassionate. And frankly by then, there is a huge psychological overlay in the autistic kids, after all the stuffing around that has happened through their primary and secondary schooling. [recap - primary = elementary. Secondary = high school (includes middle school). Tertiary - all education that happens after you finish school. Includes apprenticeship colleges and other trade education because that can shortcut university entrance.] There is a woman we know locally, who has a reputation for being a troublemaker. She gets onto various local fundraising committees but is so incompetent and so difficult to work with, that a lot of these things get sabotaged. She comes along afterwards then tries to take credit for it all; after a while people get wise to her. She lies unbelievably. At one point she made accusations about the former school principal, was telling a lot of people some rubbish about the guy that was patently untrue, but some people were believing it. She even began to believe it herself. She also has been saying things about herself that she "supervises university students." That one made it into parliament, when our local politician sang her praises in an important public service nomination. From what we have been able to determine, she does NOT work as a university lecturer; instead, the place where she works (probably as a cleaner, or minor secretary) has had a uni student do some prac work there and she met the student one day in the tea room. This woman has no credentials, but sells herself big. It's only afterwards that people discover they've been burned. Those of us who know this woman were aghast at the nomination for public service. She's not a worker; she's s saboteur. She finally had the principal confront her on what she was saying, he was apoplectic when he heard. Then last week, our local politician who had nominated her so publicly, got exposed for corruption and other nasty stuff. She is apparently involved. Couldn't happen to nicer people. We're not telling the media, because this woman would even find negative publicity to be a good thing. But we think it will eventually come out anyway. Just waiting, and watching. Marg [/QUOTE]
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