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<blockquote data-quote="helpangel" data-source="post: 618999" data-attributes="member: 7170"><p>Wow I want to meet this school psychologist, no change that I want to eat that idiot for breakfast! (OK not eat just chew up and spit out!) Looking at your signature diagnosis in 2007... so super school therapist can get more info in (what did he spend 20 minutes observing?) then the whole team of doctors who have been working with this kid for more then 5 years? What are his credentials? I would be sending letters to both the college where he got his degree and the state licensing board (not licensed??? it figures LOL)</p><p></p><p>OHI (other health impairment) IEP classification even has adHd in its definition! Wish I had a copy of DSM 5 to look and see if defiant & aggressive are in the symptoms of ODD (willing to bet they are). I can't figure out how anyone working for a school doesn't get that Cognitive Disorder is medical lingo for learning disabilities??? </p><p></p><p>Yes get an advocate (the meanest nastiest one you can find) for Monday take with you your copies of the evaluations you requested, if you have the proof and they didn't do the evaluations and it's been more then 30 days since you signed they are in violation of state law. Also take any discipline reports, suspensions, notes home about behaviors etc that happened while medicated... not that any school has right to tell anyone to drug their kid!</p><p></p><p>Take the private therapist's report with you, I'm curious did they include any suggestions on what's needed at school in that report? I can guess visual processing might need books in auditory format and adHd & executive functioning could use some extra help organizing assignments, an extra set of books to be kept at home so has materials needed to do homework, added testing time in small group setting. Test ?s read to him to answer orally and have resource teacher scribe the answers. (UGH sorry I never met the kid and I'm listing the accommodations he needs)</p><p></p><p>The reason kids show problems at home that they don't show at school is they don't want to embarrass themselves in front of the other kids. Often misbehavior is a tool to cover up not knowing the info. I was at a manifestation determination meeting for a kid repeatedly suspended for burping (yes you heard that right) teacher was a bully and would call on the kid in class knowing he didn't have the answer in his fear he would suck air so when he went to speak a loud belch would come out, all the kids would laugh. We held the meeting so they could get a sub down to that teachers classroom so he could join us... long story short my employer got a written complaint because I made their teacher cry (my boss gave me a pat on the back and said if no one complains ever you aren't doing your job) yep get the nastiest advocate you can find... if your in SE Michigan by chance PM me I'll shift my dental appointment and go with you no charge.</p><p></p><p>Almost forgot in your briefcase of info have a file folder clearly marked "DUE PROCESS" in bold marker - so anyone looks down see's those words on that folder, make it about an inch thick (blank printer paper is fine) you don't pull folder out or use the words due process but if they think you are accumulating ammo to go due process they will usually give you what you want to avoid going there. Not sure if it's everywhere or just Michigan but a couple years ago they phased out the parent signature portion of the IEP. Stuff like this makes my blood boil and I will happily assist you any way I can.</p><p></p><p>Nancy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helpangel, post: 618999, member: 7170"] Wow I want to meet this school psychologist, no change that I want to eat that idiot for breakfast! (OK not eat just chew up and spit out!) Looking at your signature diagnosis in 2007... so super school therapist can get more info in (what did he spend 20 minutes observing?) then the whole team of doctors who have been working with this kid for more then 5 years? What are his credentials? I would be sending letters to both the college where he got his degree and the state licensing board (not licensed??? it figures LOL) OHI (other health impairment) IEP classification even has adHd in its definition! Wish I had a copy of DSM 5 to look and see if defiant & aggressive are in the symptoms of ODD (willing to bet they are). I can't figure out how anyone working for a school doesn't get that Cognitive Disorder is medical lingo for learning disabilities??? Yes get an advocate (the meanest nastiest one you can find) for Monday take with you your copies of the evaluations you requested, if you have the proof and they didn't do the evaluations and it's been more then 30 days since you signed they are in violation of state law. Also take any discipline reports, suspensions, notes home about behaviors etc that happened while medicated... not that any school has right to tell anyone to drug their kid! Take the private therapist's report with you, I'm curious did they include any suggestions on what's needed at school in that report? I can guess visual processing might need books in auditory format and adHd & executive functioning could use some extra help organizing assignments, an extra set of books to be kept at home so has materials needed to do homework, added testing time in small group setting. Test ?s read to him to answer orally and have resource teacher scribe the answers. (UGH sorry I never met the kid and I'm listing the accommodations he needs) The reason kids show problems at home that they don't show at school is they don't want to embarrass themselves in front of the other kids. Often misbehavior is a tool to cover up not knowing the info. I was at a manifestation determination meeting for a kid repeatedly suspended for burping (yes you heard that right) teacher was a bully and would call on the kid in class knowing he didn't have the answer in his fear he would suck air so when he went to speak a loud belch would come out, all the kids would laugh. We held the meeting so they could get a sub down to that teachers classroom so he could join us... long story short my employer got a written complaint because I made their teacher cry (my boss gave me a pat on the back and said if no one complains ever you aren't doing your job) yep get the nastiest advocate you can find... if your in SE Michigan by chance PM me I'll shift my dental appointment and go with you no charge. Almost forgot in your briefcase of info have a file folder clearly marked "DUE PROCESS" in bold marker - so anyone looks down see's those words on that folder, make it about an inch thick (blank printer paper is fine) you don't pull folder out or use the words due process but if they think you are accumulating ammo to go due process they will usually give you what you want to avoid going there. Not sure if it's everywhere or just Michigan but a couple years ago they phased out the parent signature portion of the IEP. Stuff like this makes my blood boil and I will happily assist you any way I can. Nancy [/QUOTE]
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