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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 230855" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Move to Australia. Here, you have to be 16 before you can get a Learner's Permit. We don't have Driver's Ed as a school subject. YOu can't get a Learner's Permit unless you pass a computer test showing you know the road rules. And to get your Driver's Licence you have to be at least 17, pass the computer test and also pass a very stringent practical test. You also have to notch up 150 hours experience behind the wheel, according to the log book you must keep. Your instructor should sign off as you achieve competence in various areas of expertise when it comes to driving. Ie you have to be signed off in reverse parking, in changing gear, in hill starts, in angle parking, in correct use of indicators and lights, in breakdown procedure, and so on.</p><p></p><p>Get through that gauntlet and you get your red Ps. The first provisional licence. A year's probation, on red Ps. No alcohol consumption permitted (go easy even on cough mixture) and any accidents will lose you your licence. Then you do another computer test and get your green Ps. Another two years of no drinking AT ALL (zero blood alcohol or don't drive) but a little more leeway if you have a minor accident.</p><p></p><p>difficult child 1 knew he would be a liability behind the wheel and chose to not drive. Then when he was 22, he decided he perhaps could now give it a go. He's just gone onto his green Ps, after having red Ps for a year. daughter in law has her full licence (blacks). After you've had black licence for a few years you can choose which grade of licence to get. husband & I each have gold, which also means we've been driving for over 10 years with no accidents or loss of points.</p><p></p><p>difficult child 1 knows he can't get his Ls until he is 16. easy child 2/difficult child 2 got her Ls at 17, got her Ps at 18. easy child got her red Ps at 17.</p><p></p><p>It's not easy if the age is lower because frankly, I don't think they have the maturity, the capability to multi-task or the commonsense (often) to do this well and safely.</p><p></p><p>All I can suggest is let him, but set strong conditions that he must meet. If he wants to drive your car, he needs to meet your standards. </p><p></p><p>Learning to drive a car is a rite of passage, kids feel it's another important stage in being accepted as an adult. The trouble is, it's far more serious than that.</p><p></p><p>Here in Australia, the only kids younger than 16 behind the wheel (even at 16, with a fully licensed driver beside them) are driving on private property, because they're farm kids with "paddock basher" vehicles. And they're talking about possibly raising the age.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 230855, member: 1991"] Move to Australia. Here, you have to be 16 before you can get a Learner's Permit. We don't have Driver's Ed as a school subject. YOu can't get a Learner's Permit unless you pass a computer test showing you know the road rules. And to get your Driver's Licence you have to be at least 17, pass the computer test and also pass a very stringent practical test. You also have to notch up 150 hours experience behind the wheel, according to the log book you must keep. Your instructor should sign off as you achieve competence in various areas of expertise when it comes to driving. Ie you have to be signed off in reverse parking, in changing gear, in hill starts, in angle parking, in correct use of indicators and lights, in breakdown procedure, and so on. Get through that gauntlet and you get your red Ps. The first provisional licence. A year's probation, on red Ps. No alcohol consumption permitted (go easy even on cough mixture) and any accidents will lose you your licence. Then you do another computer test and get your green Ps. Another two years of no drinking AT ALL (zero blood alcohol or don't drive) but a little more leeway if you have a minor accident. difficult child 1 knew he would be a liability behind the wheel and chose to not drive. Then when he was 22, he decided he perhaps could now give it a go. He's just gone onto his green Ps, after having red Ps for a year. daughter in law has her full licence (blacks). After you've had black licence for a few years you can choose which grade of licence to get. husband & I each have gold, which also means we've been driving for over 10 years with no accidents or loss of points. difficult child 1 knows he can't get his Ls until he is 16. easy child 2/difficult child 2 got her Ls at 17, got her Ps at 18. easy child got her red Ps at 17. It's not easy if the age is lower because frankly, I don't think they have the maturity, the capability to multi-task or the commonsense (often) to do this well and safely. All I can suggest is let him, but set strong conditions that he must meet. If he wants to drive your car, he needs to meet your standards. Learning to drive a car is a rite of passage, kids feel it's another important stage in being accepted as an adult. The trouble is, it's far more serious than that. Here in Australia, the only kids younger than 16 behind the wheel (even at 16, with a fully licensed driver beside them) are driving on private property, because they're farm kids with "paddock basher" vehicles. And they're talking about possibly raising the age. Marg [/QUOTE]
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