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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 445642" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>And its important to know which one it is - or if it is BOTH (my bro. was that way) - because it makes a big difference in what range of approaches might work... if you're gifted, the "schlep" (bro's term) they try and dish up for you is completely unappetizing... so you just turn off, and go find your own stimulating stuff (read... trouble).</p><p></p><p>Having said that... in a lot of ways, it applies to all of us. I couldn't stand history, bored out of my mind, had trouble even getting stuff handed in - but would have loved a chance to challenge advanced English (not available back then), just couldn't get enough of language studies!</p><p> </p><p>Dog training tip that works for kids too... You pick which behaviors you want to reinforce... but the dog picks what has value as a reinforcement. Doesn't matter how much you paid for those dog treats - if the dog doesn't think its worth much, that's what you will get back. I've always used "treats" to reinforce... until we ended up with a dog who was hard to train... until we found out that what he REALLY loved was to chase a ball. THAT was his "high-value" reinforcer. AH-HA. You pull on the leash going to the park, and you don't get to carry the ball.... etc.</p><p></p><p>Except, with kids... there's a much broader range of reinforcers to investigate. And the brigher the kid... the broader the range. But you HAVE to find out what THEY put a high value on. Taking away TV privs doesn't do much if its an "oh well" sort of activity.</p><p></p><p>I'm going to have to check up on some of those links of Seriously's, too... for more ideas!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 445642, member: 11791"] And its important to know which one it is - or if it is BOTH (my bro. was that way) - because it makes a big difference in what range of approaches might work... if you're gifted, the "schlep" (bro's term) they try and dish up for you is completely unappetizing... so you just turn off, and go find your own stimulating stuff (read... trouble). Having said that... in a lot of ways, it applies to all of us. I couldn't stand history, bored out of my mind, had trouble even getting stuff handed in - but would have loved a chance to challenge advanced English (not available back then), just couldn't get enough of language studies! Dog training tip that works for kids too... You pick which behaviors you want to reinforce... but the dog picks what has value as a reinforcement. Doesn't matter how much you paid for those dog treats - if the dog doesn't think its worth much, that's what you will get back. I've always used "treats" to reinforce... until we ended up with a dog who was hard to train... until we found out that what he REALLY loved was to chase a ball. THAT was his "high-value" reinforcer. AH-HA. You pull on the leash going to the park, and you don't get to carry the ball.... etc. Except, with kids... there's a much broader range of reinforcers to investigate. And the brigher the kid... the broader the range. But you HAVE to find out what THEY put a high value on. Taking away TV privs doesn't do much if its an "oh well" sort of activity. I'm going to have to check up on some of those links of Seriously's, too... for more ideas! [/QUOTE]
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