dreamer
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OK so my easy child had to go to ER to be rehydrated due to "hyperemesis gravidarum"which is basically extreme level of nausea/vomiting/morning sickness for prolonnnged period of time...... she is preg, has morning sickness 24-7 that even zofran did not take even the edge off of. so off to er for IV fluids and IV zofran.
THe paperwork? for several years I have found this noteworthy, and more than a little..um.scary. The General COnsent form....."General Consent and Acknowledgement" at bottom left corner it has ADC 10000-00 01/07
in the first section it actually says "I understand that the practice of Medicine is not an exact science and, therefore, that no guarantees have been made regarding the liklihood of success or outcomes of any diagnosis, treatment, test, surgery or examination performed at XXX"
The home care instructions pages, given at discharge say "Portions Copyrighted 1987-2008, LOGICARE Corporation"
"IMPORTANT: We have examined and treated you today on an emergency basis only. This was not a substitute for, or an effort to provide, complete medical care. In most cases, you must let your doctor check you again. Tell your doctor about any new or lasting problems. We cannot recognize and treat all injuries or illnesses in Emergency Department visit. If you had special tests, such as EKG's or X-rays, we will review them again within 24 hours. We will call you if there are any new suggestions. You were treated today by Smith, John (alias provided by dreamer)."
Funny, easy child does not smoke, but it has a long paragraph in it about how to quit smoking....and then it has a long paragraph about coping with pain. The last page has a section for patient to sign, and another spot where it says the nurse has answered all questions we have.....but, noone asked us to sign, noone showed this to us, noone went over it with us, it was handed back to us with our insurance cards, folded. it also says "YOU ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN YOUR RECOVERY. Follow the above instructions carefully. Take your medicines as prescribed. Most important, see a doctor again as discussed. (and this next is unedrlined) If you have problems that we have not discussed, or your problems get worse. Call or visit your doctor right away. I have received this information and my questions have been answered. I have discussed any challenges I see with this plan with the nurse or physician. (Patient signature line)
(patients) or Responsible Person has received this information and tells me that all questions have been answered. (RN Staff Signature line)"
Our doctor, the ob-gyne sent us there for IV rehydration. doctor had ordered Zofran, but it did not help. ER gave IV zofran in IV with rehydrateing fluids. Post IV no vital signs were checked, no discussion with us about anything, no nurse to answer any questions. easy child, me nor any hospital staff signed the last parts at all. Next doctor appointment is 2 weeks away+. doctor considered makeing that appointment even further away but then changed mind after "I" questioned the wisdom of too long between appts when easy child had LOST 10 pounds in 3 days (and was NOT overweight person to begin with)
How ironic, easy child was there becuz she has been unable to keep any food or drink down in a full week at all.....and she had comlained of the zofran not helping at all even before rehydration and again after. Dureing rehydration she did suddenly get hungry and requested some jello- but was denied.....even tho they had already added zofran to her IV. I find it ironic, she is there becuz she has no intake at all, and it necessitated all this, and now she thinks she might be able to eat or drink and they refuse to let her? Altho then she said she still felt just as nauseas, after all, by the time rehydration finished. She did not think zofran IV helped any better than oral zofran, yet that is what they sent her home with.
I have always found this consent form very unsettleing......there is more on it nearly as unsettleing.......
over the years it changes a little here and there......but it always seems to me that it is trying to dismiss hospital of any liability for anything at all. It also does say that the docs are independant, and not employees of the hospital and also not necessarily approved by any insurance or PPO or HMO that the hospital itself might accept.
This hospital is part of a large group of hospitals, the only hospitals in our area......in order to not use these hospitals from this group- we would have to travel, like I do for my sons eye doctor etc, to the city. This is not feaseable for things that need to happen quickly or ongoing issues etc. This is also the same group all the docs in our county work with.
BUT this is what we have been dealing with for 20 years........I have posted several times about our hospital previously, so I thought I would take the paperwork we got here this trip and post it.
I sure do not find it reassureing AT ALL.
THe paperwork? for several years I have found this noteworthy, and more than a little..um.scary. The General COnsent form....."General Consent and Acknowledgement" at bottom left corner it has ADC 10000-00 01/07
in the first section it actually says "I understand that the practice of Medicine is not an exact science and, therefore, that no guarantees have been made regarding the liklihood of success or outcomes of any diagnosis, treatment, test, surgery or examination performed at XXX"
The home care instructions pages, given at discharge say "Portions Copyrighted 1987-2008, LOGICARE Corporation"
"IMPORTANT: We have examined and treated you today on an emergency basis only. This was not a substitute for, or an effort to provide, complete medical care. In most cases, you must let your doctor check you again. Tell your doctor about any new or lasting problems. We cannot recognize and treat all injuries or illnesses in Emergency Department visit. If you had special tests, such as EKG's or X-rays, we will review them again within 24 hours. We will call you if there are any new suggestions. You were treated today by Smith, John (alias provided by dreamer)."
Funny, easy child does not smoke, but it has a long paragraph in it about how to quit smoking....and then it has a long paragraph about coping with pain. The last page has a section for patient to sign, and another spot where it says the nurse has answered all questions we have.....but, noone asked us to sign, noone showed this to us, noone went over it with us, it was handed back to us with our insurance cards, folded. it also says "YOU ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN YOUR RECOVERY. Follow the above instructions carefully. Take your medicines as prescribed. Most important, see a doctor again as discussed. (and this next is unedrlined) If you have problems that we have not discussed, or your problems get worse. Call or visit your doctor right away. I have received this information and my questions have been answered. I have discussed any challenges I see with this plan with the nurse or physician. (Patient signature line)
(patients) or Responsible Person has received this information and tells me that all questions have been answered. (RN Staff Signature line)"
Our doctor, the ob-gyne sent us there for IV rehydration. doctor had ordered Zofran, but it did not help. ER gave IV zofran in IV with rehydrateing fluids. Post IV no vital signs were checked, no discussion with us about anything, no nurse to answer any questions. easy child, me nor any hospital staff signed the last parts at all. Next doctor appointment is 2 weeks away+. doctor considered makeing that appointment even further away but then changed mind after "I" questioned the wisdom of too long between appts when easy child had LOST 10 pounds in 3 days (and was NOT overweight person to begin with)
How ironic, easy child was there becuz she has been unable to keep any food or drink down in a full week at all.....and she had comlained of the zofran not helping at all even before rehydration and again after. Dureing rehydration she did suddenly get hungry and requested some jello- but was denied.....even tho they had already added zofran to her IV. I find it ironic, she is there becuz she has no intake at all, and it necessitated all this, and now she thinks she might be able to eat or drink and they refuse to let her? Altho then she said she still felt just as nauseas, after all, by the time rehydration finished. She did not think zofran IV helped any better than oral zofran, yet that is what they sent her home with.
I have always found this consent form very unsettleing......there is more on it nearly as unsettleing.......
over the years it changes a little here and there......but it always seems to me that it is trying to dismiss hospital of any liability for anything at all. It also does say that the docs are independant, and not employees of the hospital and also not necessarily approved by any insurance or PPO or HMO that the hospital itself might accept.
This hospital is part of a large group of hospitals, the only hospitals in our area......in order to not use these hospitals from this group- we would have to travel, like I do for my sons eye doctor etc, to the city. This is not feaseable for things that need to happen quickly or ongoing issues etc. This is also the same group all the docs in our county work with.
BUT this is what we have been dealing with for 20 years........I have posted several times about our hospital previously, so I thought I would take the paperwork we got here this trip and post it.
I sure do not find it reassureing AT ALL.