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Is it a requirement to be a nutjob to become a therapist?
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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 642116" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>Heh, we have quite a few MDs among our extended family and friends. I can assure you none of them is on the line for sainthood any time soon <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> Most are common, mostly decent people, some are more or less a**holes. Some are very smart, some not so much (but were very hard workers at school.) For most, in the end, it is just a job, not some higher calling. And having too much empathy or getting over involved with tragedies of their patients doesn't do any good to anyone. To be honest I don't expect or even want too much sympathy from my doctors (I do want them smart and dedicated though.) I'm totally okay with them such doing their job and not caring too much.</p><p></p><p>I have seen few different therapists over the years, we were in parenting therapy when difficult child was young; that therapist was somewhat eccentric but still made also some sense. I always felt she may have even cared a bit about what happens to difficult child and us. Few years ago I did the 10 meeting short therapy for my anxiety and sleep issues. That therapist was very businesslike and like any other professionally behaving health care provider. Very similar attitude to physical therapist etc. I liked that a lot. Then there was a marriage counsellor, whose way of working, at least with us, was more to facilitate me and husband having conversations of topics of importance and give us some points and thoughts to think about. Worked well for us, but of course we were not yet in too bad place in our marriage when we went there. I can imagine similar method with people with trouble to talk, listen and compromise with each other or some really big problems would not do any good.</p><p></p><p>Real whacky ones I have met either socially and do not know them in professional capacity (but if they are totally nuts in their private life, can they really make any good therapist?) or were therapists I met when my dad had his worse times. psychiatric side seemed to have their fair share of eccentrics, but real nutjobs were on addiction side. People whose only achievement in life was to marinate their brains in alcohol and drugs for twenty years, then go and wallow in the past substance abuse for next twenty years, never take their head out from their butt and notice there is actually world, live and other people around and not just them and their favourite substance and them using or not using it. And calling all that 'unique and extraordinary life-experience' that make them capable to be an expert in everyone else's business and any and all possible illnesses, ailments or lack of them those people may have. There were good ones too, but the type I described seemed to always be the loudest.</p><p></p><p>But yeah, my difficult child will likely be very picky and biased. Likely many of those tdocs he feels are hopelessly too mushy and don't make sense, may be perfect fit for person who has all those bad feelings they can't really put afinger or decide where they come from. Giving patients even alternative ways to express those feelings (music and art etc.) can work wonders for them. difficult child then again feels like he would be sent back to pre-school. Of course difficult child would need to accept he too has those difficult feelings he doesn't know what to do with, but I think he probably needs the different approach and especially time to learn to know and trust the therapist first.</p><p></p><p>According the studies it seems that the actual type of therapy and what school of thought therapists presents make much less difference to outcome than how well therapist and patient click. It is more about patient-therapist-relationship than if it is CBT, psycho-dynamic or psychoanalysis. If therapist and patient have good rapport and patient believes to the type of therapy, outcome is good and if not, outcomes are worse. So being picky when trying to find a therapist sounds like a good idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 642116, member: 14557"] Heh, we have quite a few MDs among our extended family and friends. I can assure you none of them is on the line for sainthood any time soon ;) Most are common, mostly decent people, some are more or less a**holes. Some are very smart, some not so much (but were very hard workers at school.) For most, in the end, it is just a job, not some higher calling. And having too much empathy or getting over involved with tragedies of their patients doesn't do any good to anyone. To be honest I don't expect or even want too much sympathy from my doctors (I do want them smart and dedicated though.) I'm totally okay with them such doing their job and not caring too much. I have seen few different therapists over the years, we were in parenting therapy when difficult child was young; that therapist was somewhat eccentric but still made also some sense. I always felt she may have even cared a bit about what happens to difficult child and us. Few years ago I did the 10 meeting short therapy for my anxiety and sleep issues. That therapist was very businesslike and like any other professionally behaving health care provider. Very similar attitude to physical therapist etc. I liked that a lot. Then there was a marriage counsellor, whose way of working, at least with us, was more to facilitate me and husband having conversations of topics of importance and give us some points and thoughts to think about. Worked well for us, but of course we were not yet in too bad place in our marriage when we went there. I can imagine similar method with people with trouble to talk, listen and compromise with each other or some really big problems would not do any good. Real whacky ones I have met either socially and do not know them in professional capacity (but if they are totally nuts in their private life, can they really make any good therapist?) or were therapists I met when my dad had his worse times. psychiatric side seemed to have their fair share of eccentrics, but real nutjobs were on addiction side. People whose only achievement in life was to marinate their brains in alcohol and drugs for twenty years, then go and wallow in the past substance abuse for next twenty years, never take their head out from their butt and notice there is actually world, live and other people around and not just them and their favourite substance and them using or not using it. And calling all that 'unique and extraordinary life-experience' that make them capable to be an expert in everyone else's business and any and all possible illnesses, ailments or lack of them those people may have. There were good ones too, but the type I described seemed to always be the loudest. But yeah, my difficult child will likely be very picky and biased. Likely many of those tdocs he feels are hopelessly too mushy and don't make sense, may be perfect fit for person who has all those bad feelings they can't really put afinger or decide where they come from. Giving patients even alternative ways to express those feelings (music and art etc.) can work wonders for them. difficult child then again feels like he would be sent back to pre-school. Of course difficult child would need to accept he too has those difficult feelings he doesn't know what to do with, but I think he probably needs the different approach and especially time to learn to know and trust the therapist first. According the studies it seems that the actual type of therapy and what school of thought therapists presents make much less difference to outcome than how well therapist and patient click. It is more about patient-therapist-relationship than if it is CBT, psycho-dynamic or psychoanalysis. If therapist and patient have good rapport and patient believes to the type of therapy, outcome is good and if not, outcomes are worse. So being picky when trying to find a therapist sounds like a good idea. [/QUOTE]
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