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Is it ever ok to just be "done?"
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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 687372" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Darkwing, believe it or not that is often true of the mentally ill sober as well. There is a worse stigma in my opinion to mental illness than substance abuse because substance abuse is the reason why they are crazy. But if you are sober and mentally ill, it means you are no excuses crazy. Many people, especially with personality disorders, sober or otherwise, do not want to change because they are inherently selfish. They dont care if they hurt others as long as they dont hurt. Which is why often they need a hard rock bottom slam too before they bother to get help to change. "The pot helps me" is not good enough. Numbing spaciness doesnt change anyone from the inside and I've seen daily pot users lack ANY motivation. They vegetate unless pushed and do not change. It takes dealing with your guts to change.</p><p>Of course untreated mental illness and substance abuse often go together, making both issues worse.</p><p>Just saying, often mental illness requires</p><p> rock bottom too or the mentally pill person will refuse treatment for mental illness. It is actually brave to admit one is mentally ill...the stigma is enourmous.</p><p>JMO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 687372, member: 1550"] Darkwing, believe it or not that is often true of the mentally ill sober as well. There is a worse stigma in my opinion to mental illness than substance abuse because substance abuse is the reason why they are crazy. But if you are sober and mentally ill, it means you are no excuses crazy. Many people, especially with personality disorders, sober or otherwise, do not want to change because they are inherently selfish. They dont care if they hurt others as long as they dont hurt. Which is why often they need a hard rock bottom slam too before they bother to get help to change. "The pot helps me" is not good enough. Numbing spaciness doesnt change anyone from the inside and I've seen daily pot users lack ANY motivation. They vegetate unless pushed and do not change. It takes dealing with your guts to change. Of course untreated mental illness and substance abuse often go together, making both issues worse. Just saying, often mental illness requires rock bottom too or the mentally pill person will refuse treatment for mental illness. It is actually brave to admit one is mentally ill...the stigma is enourmous. JMO [/QUOTE]
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