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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 593191" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>Trinity helped you with several. I know they can be associated with autism........but they are also often associated with neuro issues. </p><p></p><p>It's going to sound odd, but the "tip off" that really made me wonder........was that she doesn't seem to have an "off" button when it comes to food. That is beyond impulse control....or lack there of....she just doesn't seem to have it. When it's impulse control the person still gets full eventually. They might regret eating too much, but it's not the same thing or severity. She doesn't indulge in snack foods ......she can't seem to turn it off with anything. Know what I mean?? </p><p></p><p>Also if I remember right in one of your posts you indicated she'd relieved herself outside before (I think it was where she found the beer and dumped it out). That.....specifically at her age......is not lack of impulse control.......that is a red flag there is something that is just not "clicking" that should have clicked with her long ago. Again.....possible neuro. </p><p></p><p>Many good psychiatrists (who have the time) will at least attempt with symptoms such as hers to rule out any biological or neuro issues so they can be certain of the diagnosis. Because if they think they're just dealing with a developmentally delayed / autistic person.........when they're really dealing with a developmentally delayed / autistic person due to either a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) or other brain issue (bio/neuro not mental per se) how you deal with it is not the same. I probably didn't explain that well.........it's late and I've been doing physical labor all day and just walked 2 miles and even my brain seems to be exhausted. lol </p><p></p><p>Hmm. Let's put it this way.......... If her eating is impulse control you would deal with it by trying to teach self control. While you might not be completely successful.....you'd probably see some improvement. But if her eating issues are neuro related........as in she honestly doesn't get a message to her brain that tells her she is no longer hungry......just attempting to teach her self control would most likely drive you insane and change her behavior very little. Instead supervision would probably be called for. Know what I mean?? </p><p></p><p>Or take this one: Travis' room looks like a hoarder took up residence. I'd like to say otherwise, but I'd be lying. We spent many years of his childhood locked in a battle over him cleaning his room. Clean is not good enough for me, I want it organized/cleaned. I'd send him in to clean. Check on him every 15 mins.......and rarely was their progress made. It wasn't defiance.....although I often wanted to strangle him. He often seemed to actually forget he was supposed to be cleaning. (I didn't truly by that for a very long time. ) The neuro that was trying to explain to me about how the areas of his brain that were damaged affect behavior did it this way..........Let me tell you about Travis (he'd met him once prior to his MRI, didn't really know him) you send him in to clean his room but he never seems to get anywhere and it's a pig stye. Right? I asked him how he knew. Then he explained that Travis is unable to organize due to the area of the brain that was affected. Next he said Travis can't follow more than one or two instructions at a time. (I was gawking at him now) This is because when presented with too much information his brain gets "overloaded" and shuts down to basic function or zones out....which eventually makes him forget the tasks he was supposed to do. From there he went on to describe Travis to me in such detail you'd have thought he knew him his entire life. It was downright spooky. </p><p></p><p>For years consequences never worked with these behaviors. Due to the reason behind them, consequences never would work with these behaviors. Instead, we had to work around them. For cleaning his room I used to sit on the edge of the bed and give him one task to do at a time like 1 start with the trash then make him stay on task until it was finished and give him a new one until the whole room was done. Whenever I want him to do something I only give him up to two things to do. If I actually have a longer list.......I wait until the two things are done before giving him one or two more. The progress from that point was amazing. Yes, his room is a stye right now, but then I've not had an opportunity to supervise long enough for him to actually clean it all the way either. </p><p></p><p>I don't know all of your difficult child's behaviors so I can't sit and make a list of all the possible neuro related ones. You could, however, look up cerebral palsy or Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) symptoms and see if any of what they have listed sound familiar........if they do, add them to your list for the doctor.</p><p></p><p>You and difficult child are in my prayers. I've got body parts crossed..........and sending positive juju your way. </p><p></p><p>(((hugs)))</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 593191, member: 84"] Trinity helped you with several. I know they can be associated with autism........but they are also often associated with neuro issues. It's going to sound odd, but the "tip off" that really made me wonder........was that she doesn't seem to have an "off" button when it comes to food. That is beyond impulse control....or lack there of....she just doesn't seem to have it. When it's impulse control the person still gets full eventually. They might regret eating too much, but it's not the same thing or severity. She doesn't indulge in snack foods ......she can't seem to turn it off with anything. Know what I mean?? Also if I remember right in one of your posts you indicated she'd relieved herself outside before (I think it was where she found the beer and dumped it out). That.....specifically at her age......is not lack of impulse control.......that is a red flag there is something that is just not "clicking" that should have clicked with her long ago. Again.....possible neuro. Many good psychiatrists (who have the time) will at least attempt with symptoms such as hers to rule out any biological or neuro issues so they can be certain of the diagnosis. Because if they think they're just dealing with a developmentally delayed / autistic person.........when they're really dealing with a developmentally delayed / autistic person due to either a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) or other brain issue (bio/neuro not mental per se) how you deal with it is not the same. I probably didn't explain that well.........it's late and I've been doing physical labor all day and just walked 2 miles and even my brain seems to be exhausted. lol Hmm. Let's put it this way.......... If her eating is impulse control you would deal with it by trying to teach self control. While you might not be completely successful.....you'd probably see some improvement. But if her eating issues are neuro related........as in she honestly doesn't get a message to her brain that tells her she is no longer hungry......just attempting to teach her self control would most likely drive you insane and change her behavior very little. Instead supervision would probably be called for. Know what I mean?? Or take this one: Travis' room looks like a hoarder took up residence. I'd like to say otherwise, but I'd be lying. We spent many years of his childhood locked in a battle over him cleaning his room. Clean is not good enough for me, I want it organized/cleaned. I'd send him in to clean. Check on him every 15 mins.......and rarely was their progress made. It wasn't defiance.....although I often wanted to strangle him. He often seemed to actually forget he was supposed to be cleaning. (I didn't truly by that for a very long time. ) The neuro that was trying to explain to me about how the areas of his brain that were damaged affect behavior did it this way..........Let me tell you about Travis (he'd met him once prior to his MRI, didn't really know him) you send him in to clean his room but he never seems to get anywhere and it's a pig stye. Right? I asked him how he knew. Then he explained that Travis is unable to organize due to the area of the brain that was affected. Next he said Travis can't follow more than one or two instructions at a time. (I was gawking at him now) This is because when presented with too much information his brain gets "overloaded" and shuts down to basic function or zones out....which eventually makes him forget the tasks he was supposed to do. From there he went on to describe Travis to me in such detail you'd have thought he knew him his entire life. It was downright spooky. For years consequences never worked with these behaviors. Due to the reason behind them, consequences never would work with these behaviors. Instead, we had to work around them. For cleaning his room I used to sit on the edge of the bed and give him one task to do at a time like 1 start with the trash then make him stay on task until it was finished and give him a new one until the whole room was done. Whenever I want him to do something I only give him up to two things to do. If I actually have a longer list.......I wait until the two things are done before giving him one or two more. The progress from that point was amazing. Yes, his room is a stye right now, but then I've not had an opportunity to supervise long enough for him to actually clean it all the way either. I don't know all of your difficult child's behaviors so I can't sit and make a list of all the possible neuro related ones. You could, however, look up cerebral palsy or Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) symptoms and see if any of what they have listed sound familiar........if they do, add them to your list for the doctor. You and difficult child are in my prayers. I've got body parts crossed..........and sending positive juju your way. (((hugs))) [/QUOTE]
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