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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 41366" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Sunny, how does he score on the unofficial Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) test on <a href="http://www.childbrain.com?" target="_blank">http://www.childbrain.com?</a> Do you think it's worth your doing the test online, printing the results and then taking a copy with you to this bloke?</p><p></p><p>The other assessments will be of use, and they're the most expensive part of the process. If you still feel they got it wrong, you can go elsewhere but get copies of the tests' scores with you (or sent to the new person).</p><p></p><p>These tests shouldn't be repeated too often anyway - having had them done, te scores can be looked at impartially, any further testing is simply a refinement of what has already been done. Work shouldn't need to be repeated.</p><p></p><p>BUT - YOUR observations and concerns should be getting taken on board. Just because he can talk doesn't mean he's not Aspie, at least. difficult child 3 was telling jokes at 9 - the jokes he liked were the ones involving puns, or some other form of word play. I bet that's what he was telling. Can you find out? Ask your son to tell you the joke he told the doctor.</p><p></p><p>With words and difficult child 3 - he was always working at trying to build his skills to make himself seem as normal as possible. He still does. You could hold a conversation if you talked about computer games, for example. He was quite articulate at 9, he understood that he is autistic and that it means he has to work harder at some things, but other things are easier for him than other people. He could explain a process, in writing as well; he was brilliant at written comprehension exercises (or anything in writing); he had an amazing knowledge of music, including musical theory; AND he made eye contact often, which is unusual. But the language delay that is part of his history determined that his diagnosis is not Asperger's, but autism.</p><p></p><p>difficult child 3 now tells more complex jokes although word play and slapstick are still favourites. He understands sarcasm and is also very good with his comedy timing these days. His prodigious memory means he can memorise jokes, quips, lines etc and trot them out when they seem to 'fit' a situation. This is what difficult child 1 has been doing for years. These kids LOVE humour and are capable of it, it justtakes them longer.</p><p></p><p>Temple Grandin's written a book called "An Anthropologist on Mars". Basically, these kids feel like outsiders and like Temple Grandin, both my boys have become keenly interested in animal behaviour as a way of trying to understand human behaviour. They are able to make observations in much more depth because they can concentrate so very thoroughly. Humour is an important aspect of human behaviour, which is why I think my boys study it as if it were a university subject vital to their matriculation. difficult child 3 reads TV comedy show scripts, he even transcribes movie scripts into a text file. He memorises huge chunks of these and quotes freely. </p><p></p><p>It's all part of what difficult child 3 described, back when he was 8, as "getting good at pretending to be normal."</p><p></p><p>Good luck and don't despair. Maybe threaten to ask for a second opinion?</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 41366, member: 1991"] Sunny, how does he score on the unofficial Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) test on [url="http://www.childbrain.com?"]http://www.childbrain.com?[/url] Do you think it's worth your doing the test online, printing the results and then taking a copy with you to this bloke? The other assessments will be of use, and they're the most expensive part of the process. If you still feel they got it wrong, you can go elsewhere but get copies of the tests' scores with you (or sent to the new person). These tests shouldn't be repeated too often anyway - having had them done, te scores can be looked at impartially, any further testing is simply a refinement of what has already been done. Work shouldn't need to be repeated. BUT - YOUR observations and concerns should be getting taken on board. Just because he can talk doesn't mean he's not Aspie, at least. difficult child 3 was telling jokes at 9 - the jokes he liked were the ones involving puns, or some other form of word play. I bet that's what he was telling. Can you find out? Ask your son to tell you the joke he told the doctor. With words and difficult child 3 - he was always working at trying to build his skills to make himself seem as normal as possible. He still does. You could hold a conversation if you talked about computer games, for example. He was quite articulate at 9, he understood that he is autistic and that it means he has to work harder at some things, but other things are easier for him than other people. He could explain a process, in writing as well; he was brilliant at written comprehension exercises (or anything in writing); he had an amazing knowledge of music, including musical theory; AND he made eye contact often, which is unusual. But the language delay that is part of his history determined that his diagnosis is not Asperger's, but autism. difficult child 3 now tells more complex jokes although word play and slapstick are still favourites. He understands sarcasm and is also very good with his comedy timing these days. His prodigious memory means he can memorise jokes, quips, lines etc and trot them out when they seem to 'fit' a situation. This is what difficult child 1 has been doing for years. These kids LOVE humour and are capable of it, it justtakes them longer. Temple Grandin's written a book called "An Anthropologist on Mars". Basically, these kids feel like outsiders and like Temple Grandin, both my boys have become keenly interested in animal behaviour as a way of trying to understand human behaviour. They are able to make observations in much more depth because they can concentrate so very thoroughly. Humour is an important aspect of human behaviour, which is why I think my boys study it as if it were a university subject vital to their matriculation. difficult child 3 reads TV comedy show scripts, he even transcribes movie scripts into a text file. He memorises huge chunks of these and quotes freely. It's all part of what difficult child 3 described, back when he was 8, as "getting good at pretending to be normal." Good luck and don't despair. Maybe threaten to ask for a second opinion? Marg [/QUOTE]
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