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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 428218" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>What is it with OH and toilet issues? The schools there seem to have the STUPIDEST policies about anything pertaining to the lower half of your digestive process that I have EVER heard!!! First I had a 3rd gr teacher who was six feet 2 inches tall and weighed about 300 pounds. He sat on the heater (they were built into vents that came up about counter height) and farted ALL winter long. I do mean ALL. There were days that when we left his room our clothing smelled like farts. The other teachers would then try to punish US for being "dirty" or "unclean" or not washing our uniforms. It was nuts. </p><p></p><p>Then Wiz was in second grade and had to sign a bad behavior book if he had to use the bathroom before lunch - which was at noon. That was their one bathroom break and you had to pay a "caught being good" buck (which you could spend on toys if you had enough of them) and sign that book if you had to go at any other time. He was on asthma medications that made him have to go a LOT. The book had one page for every day and all the other kids got to see what you wrote - heck sometimes the teacher would announce how many times you did whatever and ask the class if maybe you should have figured out that it wasn't allowed - this included using the restroom!!! It was NOT started because kids took too many toilet breaks or spent too long in the bathroom or played around in the halls on potty breaks. It was just the policy from day one. A note from the doctor saying that Wiz had to be allowed to go when he had to, regardless of when the breaks were was sent home with a note saying that they were NOT changing the policy just for him and the doctor needed to figure out a way to help him "hold it" instead of making excuses for his bad behavior. YES, they said BAD BEHAVIOR meaning that going to the restroom was not allowed. This school had combined grades 2 and 3 so that all classes were mixed and they had kids who hadn't had accidents since age 3 now wetting their pants!!! Not one or two, five or six a WEEK and not all the same kids. They also provided water bottles at each child's desk and encouraged them to drink to stay hydrated. They saw no problem with that and no way it would contribute to the kids wetting themselves. </p><p></p><p>I finally made them stop by getting a friend's lawyer father and judge grandfather to send a note saying that this was child abuse and that they could NOT have the bad behavior book because it violated privacy laws and could not charge ANYONE anything to use the bathroom because OH has a law against pay toilets. It literally had to go that far. I had more parents thanking me for this, and kids I never even knew hugging me in thanks for being able to go to the bathroom.</p><p></p><p>I have friends in OH who have had similar problems from schools in every major city in OH. </p><p></p><p>And now they are kicking kids off the bus for farting? Yes, it can be controlled to some extent. Yes, teens especially boys DO fart to make people laugh or uncomfortable. Yes, they do think it is hilarious when someone farts loudly. Esp if someone has already gotten an adult to make a big deal about it - like this driver clearly did. Yes, sometimes you DO need to open windows when the farts are that bad. </p><p></p><p>Do they not realize that sometimes the kdis CANNOT control it and use it as a joke rather than to sit and be embarrassed? Cause if you are not laughing about it then everyone will laugh AT you and tease you about it. So if YOU make a joke about it then it cuts the teasing/bullying majorly. Teen boys have HUGE appetites because they are growing so much. Often their digestive system is off kilter because the surging hormones and the sheer quantity of food they eat. If the boys are eating a diet with a decent amount of fiber and veggies, or one high in grease and fat, then they will increase the amt of farting they do exponentially. Given the school lunch program, I bet they are getting a high fat diet that has little fiber unless they have a parent who pushes healthy food. All of this means that they are going to fart. Being the age they are, they are going to use it to clown around. Being around other kids their age, with minimal supervision (buses are one of the least supervised times in a school day, in my opinion) it may cause a bit of a ruckus.</p><p></p><p>So WHAT? Were they physically hurting anyone? Were they running around? Or was the driver just in a bad mood and not wanting the kids to be kids? in my opinion this is more a driver mess up than a kid problem. If the driver had laughed a bit, then told the kids to settle down and knock it off it likely would NOT have been a big deal in any way, shape or form.</p><p></p><p>But I guess having natural bodily functions is not allowed in OH schools. I hope that a whole group of kids and their parents eats a ton of gas producing food and then goes to the superintendent's office to protest this. Esp cause the boy's mom has gastro problems - they run in families so the boy truly may NOT be able to help it. And if he doesn't make a joke of it he is going to be bullied something fierce.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 428218, member: 1233"] What is it with OH and toilet issues? The schools there seem to have the STUPIDEST policies about anything pertaining to the lower half of your digestive process that I have EVER heard!!! First I had a 3rd gr teacher who was six feet 2 inches tall and weighed about 300 pounds. He sat on the heater (they were built into vents that came up about counter height) and farted ALL winter long. I do mean ALL. There were days that when we left his room our clothing smelled like farts. The other teachers would then try to punish US for being "dirty" or "unclean" or not washing our uniforms. It was nuts. Then Wiz was in second grade and had to sign a bad behavior book if he had to use the bathroom before lunch - which was at noon. That was their one bathroom break and you had to pay a "caught being good" buck (which you could spend on toys if you had enough of them) and sign that book if you had to go at any other time. He was on asthma medications that made him have to go a LOT. The book had one page for every day and all the other kids got to see what you wrote - heck sometimes the teacher would announce how many times you did whatever and ask the class if maybe you should have figured out that it wasn't allowed - this included using the restroom!!! It was NOT started because kids took too many toilet breaks or spent too long in the bathroom or played around in the halls on potty breaks. It was just the policy from day one. A note from the doctor saying that Wiz had to be allowed to go when he had to, regardless of when the breaks were was sent home with a note saying that they were NOT changing the policy just for him and the doctor needed to figure out a way to help him "hold it" instead of making excuses for his bad behavior. YES, they said BAD BEHAVIOR meaning that going to the restroom was not allowed. This school had combined grades 2 and 3 so that all classes were mixed and they had kids who hadn't had accidents since age 3 now wetting their pants!!! Not one or two, five or six a WEEK and not all the same kids. They also provided water bottles at each child's desk and encouraged them to drink to stay hydrated. They saw no problem with that and no way it would contribute to the kids wetting themselves. I finally made them stop by getting a friend's lawyer father and judge grandfather to send a note saying that this was child abuse and that they could NOT have the bad behavior book because it violated privacy laws and could not charge ANYONE anything to use the bathroom because OH has a law against pay toilets. It literally had to go that far. I had more parents thanking me for this, and kids I never even knew hugging me in thanks for being able to go to the bathroom. I have friends in OH who have had similar problems from schools in every major city in OH. And now they are kicking kids off the bus for farting? Yes, it can be controlled to some extent. Yes, teens especially boys DO fart to make people laugh or uncomfortable. Yes, they do think it is hilarious when someone farts loudly. Esp if someone has already gotten an adult to make a big deal about it - like this driver clearly did. Yes, sometimes you DO need to open windows when the farts are that bad. Do they not realize that sometimes the kdis CANNOT control it and use it as a joke rather than to sit and be embarrassed? Cause if you are not laughing about it then everyone will laugh AT you and tease you about it. So if YOU make a joke about it then it cuts the teasing/bullying majorly. Teen boys have HUGE appetites because they are growing so much. Often their digestive system is off kilter because the surging hormones and the sheer quantity of food they eat. If the boys are eating a diet with a decent amount of fiber and veggies, or one high in grease and fat, then they will increase the amt of farting they do exponentially. Given the school lunch program, I bet they are getting a high fat diet that has little fiber unless they have a parent who pushes healthy food. All of this means that they are going to fart. Being the age they are, they are going to use it to clown around. Being around other kids their age, with minimal supervision (buses are one of the least supervised times in a school day, in my opinion) it may cause a bit of a ruckus. So WHAT? Were they physically hurting anyone? Were they running around? Or was the driver just in a bad mood and not wanting the kids to be kids? in my opinion this is more a driver mess up than a kid problem. If the driver had laughed a bit, then told the kids to settle down and knock it off it likely would NOT have been a big deal in any way, shape or form. But I guess having natural bodily functions is not allowed in OH schools. I hope that a whole group of kids and their parents eats a ton of gas producing food and then goes to the superintendent's office to protest this. Esp cause the boy's mom has gastro problems - they run in families so the boy truly may NOT be able to help it. And if he doesn't make a joke of it he is going to be bullied something fierce. [/QUOTE]
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