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<blockquote data-quote="muttmeister" data-source="post: 428249" data-attributes="member: 135"><p>When I taught school, I always wondered what ever happened to common sense. The administration had no common sense. The kids had no common sense. The parents often had no common sense. And a lot of the teacher had no common sense. (Of course, I did. If everybody would just listen to me, all of the problems would have been solved. LOL)</p><p> </p><p>This is one of those issues where common sense is needed and lacking. I do know that the farting issue is much worse than when I was a kid in school. We knew it was not allowed and we'd do our darndest to hold it in and if it got out we probably got made fun of, which reinforced the idea that it was not something you should do. But, because it happended so seldom, people figured that you couldn't help it and you didn't get kicked off the bus or punished severely. You might get a few minutes of detention but that was no big deal. Now we have schools that either ignore it because it is a "natural" function so you should be able to do it anyplace and everyplace at anytime OR they over-react and make a federal case out of it. No common sense.</p><p> </p><p>As far as the bathroom issue goes, it is the same thing. Kids have to go at times and to deny that is stupid and, as far as I'm concerned, it is a form of abuse to not let them go when they need to. I did have one kid who'd go to the john and stay there until I went to get him. I've had other kid who use it as an excuse to get out of the classroom to cause trouble other places. I've had a few who I would only let go if the aide went with them because they'd pee in the trash cans, poop in the showers, pull the fire alarm, and just generally cause trouble the whole time they were out of the room. I've had kids who claimed they had to go every half hour and when I'd mention it to their parents I was told that, no, there was no medical problem and there was no reason for them to be going so often. It becomes really frustrating to have to spend all of your time as a teacher directing traffic to and from the bathroom instead of teaching what the kids need to know. But again, common sense should take care of a lot of those problems. Schedule regular bathroom breaks. Have a reasonable policy of what to do when somebody needs to go between breaks. If somebody thinks they have to go OFTEN, and there is no corroboration from parent or doctor, let him go and then have him make up the time during recess, after school, or whatever. There are ways to deal with these problems. But some power hungry person decides to enforce an unreasonable rule and it causes trouble for teachers, kids, and parents. No common sense - I'm glad I'm retired.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="muttmeister, post: 428249, member: 135"] When I taught school, I always wondered what ever happened to common sense. The administration had no common sense. The kids had no common sense. The parents often had no common sense. And a lot of the teacher had no common sense. (Of course, I did. If everybody would just listen to me, all of the problems would have been solved. LOL) This is one of those issues where common sense is needed and lacking. I do know that the farting issue is much worse than when I was a kid in school. We knew it was not allowed and we'd do our darndest to hold it in and if it got out we probably got made fun of, which reinforced the idea that it was not something you should do. But, because it happended so seldom, people figured that you couldn't help it and you didn't get kicked off the bus or punished severely. You might get a few minutes of detention but that was no big deal. Now we have schools that either ignore it because it is a "natural" function so you should be able to do it anyplace and everyplace at anytime OR they over-react and make a federal case out of it. No common sense. As far as the bathroom issue goes, it is the same thing. Kids have to go at times and to deny that is stupid and, as far as I'm concerned, it is a form of abuse to not let them go when they need to. I did have one kid who'd go to the john and stay there until I went to get him. I've had other kid who use it as an excuse to get out of the classroom to cause trouble other places. I've had a few who I would only let go if the aide went with them because they'd pee in the trash cans, poop in the showers, pull the fire alarm, and just generally cause trouble the whole time they were out of the room. I've had kids who claimed they had to go every half hour and when I'd mention it to their parents I was told that, no, there was no medical problem and there was no reason for them to be going so often. It becomes really frustrating to have to spend all of your time as a teacher directing traffic to and from the bathroom instead of teaching what the kids need to know. But again, common sense should take care of a lot of those problems. Schedule regular bathroom breaks. Have a reasonable policy of what to do when somebody needs to go between breaks. If somebody thinks they have to go OFTEN, and there is no corroboration from parent or doctor, let him go and then have him make up the time during recess, after school, or whatever. There are ways to deal with these problems. But some power hungry person decides to enforce an unreasonable rule and it causes trouble for teachers, kids, and parents. No common sense - I'm glad I'm retired. [/QUOTE]
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