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<blockquote data-quote="DammitJanet" data-source="post: 302685" data-attributes="member: 1514"><p>Upallnight</p><p></p><p>There is a huge difference here in your argument. </p><p></p><p>First I will deal with your reference to the chicken example. You might have a point if you were talking about chicken fighting but he was dog fighting. Dogs are never meant to be eaten. We dont raise dogs in our back yard to be meat. They are pets. They have feelings and emotions. Yes, these particular dogs were raised to be fought and this breed tends to be raised to be fought but they were originally raised to herd and catch pigs and bulls. I cant abide dog fighting. We are, or have been, involved in chicken fighting because it is a totally different sport. Chickens really dont have the same emotions. They naturally fight in the wild. Dogs dont. Dogs arent even meant to be wild. Dogs are domesticated animals. Chickens arent. Chickens who are raised to be fought are kept in cages and live for years as opposed to the average 4 to 6 months that Purdue or Holly Farms keeps their chickens alive before they kill them to send them to the grocery store. We had chickens that lived for upwards of 13 or more years. </p><p></p><p>Now as far as Micheal Vick. I am all for people getting second chance if they are truly remorseful but he has not attoned for his sins. He has not admitted what he really did. He claims he only provided the space for this dogfighting ring to run. He hasnt admitted he actually killed those dogs in that awful manner, he hasnt admitted he betted on those fights. Or even that he actually went to the fights. There isnt a person alive who knows anything about dogfighting who believes a word coming out of his mouth. I know someone who bought a Vick dog. Before he got caught. We all know he was fighting them and that he was betting on them. If you are fighting them and NOT betting on them, you are just watching for the thrill of seeing a dog bleed to death. That is just a really sick individual. Which means he is just lying to keep from breaking the football leagues gambling rules. Which should be a problem for them too. </p><p></p><p>Anyway he goes he should be in trouble with the NFL for more than just the dog fighting because he is lying on top of the dog fighting and they know it. They are just choosing to turn a blind eye because he is a good quarterback. If I was Donovan McNab I would be really ticked off. He is a good quarterback who now has all the attention being drawn away from him and onto a donkey who shouldnt even be there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DammitJanet, post: 302685, member: 1514"] Upallnight There is a huge difference here in your argument. First I will deal with your reference to the chicken example. You might have a point if you were talking about chicken fighting but he was dog fighting. Dogs are never meant to be eaten. We dont raise dogs in our back yard to be meat. They are pets. They have feelings and emotions. Yes, these particular dogs were raised to be fought and this breed tends to be raised to be fought but they were originally raised to herd and catch pigs and bulls. I cant abide dog fighting. We are, or have been, involved in chicken fighting because it is a totally different sport. Chickens really dont have the same emotions. They naturally fight in the wild. Dogs dont. Dogs arent even meant to be wild. Dogs are domesticated animals. Chickens arent. Chickens who are raised to be fought are kept in cages and live for years as opposed to the average 4 to 6 months that Purdue or Holly Farms keeps their chickens alive before they kill them to send them to the grocery store. We had chickens that lived for upwards of 13 or more years. Now as far as Micheal Vick. I am all for people getting second chance if they are truly remorseful but he has not attoned for his sins. He has not admitted what he really did. He claims he only provided the space for this dogfighting ring to run. He hasnt admitted he actually killed those dogs in that awful manner, he hasnt admitted he betted on those fights. Or even that he actually went to the fights. There isnt a person alive who knows anything about dogfighting who believes a word coming out of his mouth. I know someone who bought a Vick dog. Before he got caught. We all know he was fighting them and that he was betting on them. If you are fighting them and NOT betting on them, you are just watching for the thrill of seeing a dog bleed to death. That is just a really sick individual. Which means he is just lying to keep from breaking the football leagues gambling rules. Which should be a problem for them too. Anyway he goes he should be in trouble with the NFL for more than just the dog fighting because he is lying on top of the dog fighting and they know it. They are just choosing to turn a blind eye because he is a good quarterback. If I was Donovan McNab I would be really ticked off. He is a good quarterback who now has all the attention being drawn away from him and onto a donkey who shouldnt even be there. [/QUOTE]
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