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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 575011" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>I'm torn with this. On the other hand it feels quite hypocrite to pick one athlete when his whole sport is so thoroughly doped (same with many other endurance sports.) On the other hand one can not but wonder the cancer and sudden heart attacks with athletes especially in sports and countries you know they are using (there has been a lot of latter in soccer across the Europe lately.) Anti-doping practises are also so different from country to country that competition is far from fair. For example many pro sports in USA have none to very superficial doping control. For example it is joke around here that when a hockey player from Europe moves to NHL/AHL they gain 20 pounds of muscle and inch of chin in one summer. And that is because in North America they don't have to worry doping control like for example in Sweden. Then again doping is not doing the work for anyone, mostly it just makes it possible to train harder without body getting over exhausted. So also the doping users have to do the work.</p><p></p><p>My sons are in competitive sports, difficult child already in low pro level. I do know he isn't using anything now and he is tested quite frequently. And in what he does extreme endurance or strength is not that important so he is less prone to doping even if he someday ends up somewhere, there risk of getting caught would be smaller. For his sport the biggest advantage would be shorter recovery times and ability to play more without exhaustion and risk for injury that brings. But it's not like in endurance sports (like cycling) there you simple are not competitive without same doping as others are taking.</p><p></p><p>Of course not all drugs used for doping are things that would feel especially harmful. For example stimulants are doping and they are doping my kid would had a hard time getting clearance even if he could show clear medical need and long-time us from childhood. (An athlete can get a clearance for any not allowed drug if there is a medical need and it doesn't give them advantage to healthy athletes.) Some of the most commonly used doping in world of pro team sports are very common allergy or asthma medicine for example. So many of us are in fact using substances that would get an athlete into a trouble.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 575011, member: 14557"] I'm torn with this. On the other hand it feels quite hypocrite to pick one athlete when his whole sport is so thoroughly doped (same with many other endurance sports.) On the other hand one can not but wonder the cancer and sudden heart attacks with athletes especially in sports and countries you know they are using (there has been a lot of latter in soccer across the Europe lately.) Anti-doping practises are also so different from country to country that competition is far from fair. For example many pro sports in USA have none to very superficial doping control. For example it is joke around here that when a hockey player from Europe moves to NHL/AHL they gain 20 pounds of muscle and inch of chin in one summer. And that is because in North America they don't have to worry doping control like for example in Sweden. Then again doping is not doing the work for anyone, mostly it just makes it possible to train harder without body getting over exhausted. So also the doping users have to do the work. My sons are in competitive sports, difficult child already in low pro level. I do know he isn't using anything now and he is tested quite frequently. And in what he does extreme endurance or strength is not that important so he is less prone to doping even if he someday ends up somewhere, there risk of getting caught would be smaller. For his sport the biggest advantage would be shorter recovery times and ability to play more without exhaustion and risk for injury that brings. But it's not like in endurance sports (like cycling) there you simple are not competitive without same doping as others are taking. Of course not all drugs used for doping are things that would feel especially harmful. For example stimulants are doping and they are doping my kid would had a hard time getting clearance even if he could show clear medical need and long-time us from childhood. (An athlete can get a clearance for any not allowed drug if there is a medical need and it doesn't give them advantage to healthy athletes.) Some of the most commonly used doping in world of pro team sports are very common allergy or asthma medicine for example. So many of us are in fact using substances that would get an athlete into a trouble. [/QUOTE]
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