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<blockquote data-quote="exhausted" data-source="post: 472350" data-attributes="member: 11001"><p>For an initial evaluation. and to qualify for Learning Disability (LD) services (I am assuming you believe he has learning disabilities in reading based on his comprehension and word analysis skills), they need to do a cognitive evaluation as well as an academic evaluation. Learning disabilities are identified through a "deficit model". This means, that a child with a normal cognitive funtion, is not achieving at the level he should given his ability. Sometimes, kids with ADHD have high IQ (as with our kids), and they could be performing at grade level, however, this is still below their ability. Another senario is that when a cognitive assessment (usually the Woodcock Johnson or WISC in schools), a child with a learning disability may show much disparity in their processing scores. When we see ups and downs in subtests, this is also an indication of a possible learning problem.</p><p>The state tests are not normed tests-they are criterion referenced. In our state using these is not legal. These tests have different purposes and I would not be ok with those beingt used. Criterion tests measure the group more than the individual and if the state core curriculum was mastered. Normed tests for special placements, are individually given tests designed to find issues. If these (WISC,Woodcock are the most common) have not been administered, I would seriously question this evaluation. I would ask for these to be done.</p><p>As for writing, it is a common issue with ADHD kids to struggle and they almost always show deficits in this and fine motor on the tests (cant tests these with state core testing). These are cause for services, be it resource or Occupational Therapist (OT). The longer one waits to help with these writing problems, the harder they are to fix by the way.</p><p>My son was able to get Occupational Therapist (OT) services with a 504 plan in this state. Don't know about your state.</p><p>Find out the tests and let us know. As a general rule (general-not is stone because higher scores with a higher IQ are also a problem)scores below 85 if he has an average IQ should be of concern to every one.</p><p>Is there a parent center that specializes in IEP advocacy? We have one here-free and very knowledgable about laws and testing, they will also attend meetings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="exhausted, post: 472350, member: 11001"] For an initial evaluation. and to qualify for Learning Disability (LD) services (I am assuming you believe he has learning disabilities in reading based on his comprehension and word analysis skills), they need to do a cognitive evaluation as well as an academic evaluation. Learning disabilities are identified through a "deficit model". This means, that a child with a normal cognitive funtion, is not achieving at the level he should given his ability. Sometimes, kids with ADHD have high IQ (as with our kids), and they could be performing at grade level, however, this is still below their ability. Another senario is that when a cognitive assessment (usually the Woodcock Johnson or WISC in schools), a child with a learning disability may show much disparity in their processing scores. When we see ups and downs in subtests, this is also an indication of a possible learning problem. The state tests are not normed tests-they are criterion referenced. In our state using these is not legal. These tests have different purposes and I would not be ok with those beingt used. Criterion tests measure the group more than the individual and if the state core curriculum was mastered. Normed tests for special placements, are individually given tests designed to find issues. If these (WISC,Woodcock are the most common) have not been administered, I would seriously question this evaluation. I would ask for these to be done. As for writing, it is a common issue with ADHD kids to struggle and they almost always show deficits in this and fine motor on the tests (cant tests these with state core testing). These are cause for services, be it resource or Occupational Therapist (OT). The longer one waits to help with these writing problems, the harder they are to fix by the way. My son was able to get Occupational Therapist (OT) services with a 504 plan in this state. Don't know about your state. Find out the tests and let us know. As a general rule (general-not is stone because higher scores with a higher IQ are also a problem)scores below 85 if he has an average IQ should be of concern to every one. Is there a parent center that specializes in IEP advocacy? We have one here-free and very knowledgable about laws and testing, they will also attend meetings. [/QUOTE]
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