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<blockquote data-quote="exhausted" data-source="post: 438361" data-attributes="member: 11001"><p>We were lucky with our son. We started him on ritalin at age 5. He was so active and not focused. He was not a violent kid and did not rage. He did have some tantrums but not bad. We did use the Mandt system once(I had been trained at school), to hold him in time out-he never again left time out. We were lucky with him as we intervened early (sp. preschool and saw the neuropsychologist). He did not suffer in school the way I have seen many ADHD kids suffer with friends and work completion. I was firm and consistant,I used what then was the conventional wisdom-behavioristic methods. Neither my husband or I spanked him or screamed because we had decided before we had kids we did not want to do this-we had both had our bottoms beat many times and felt horrid about it. I won't say I didn't feel like screaming and spanking.This was successful for us-as I've said before he is a great kid and has been off medications. for sometime.</p><p></p><p>Our daughter on the other hand..... She was first diagnosed with ADHD at age 12-the stimulants blurred her vision so she had trouble playing ball and reading. Next the psychiatric. wanted to try an SSRI-our first hospital admit-when she reached therapeutic dose, she had suicidal ideation which she wrote and verbalized. Later on we tried Straterra and I thought we had some good results in combination with another SSRI-again when she was extremely frustrated, she threatened to end her life. At phospital the doctor, after less than 24 hours decided she was bipolar (something we had looked at for the previouse year and did not see). They medicated her on Seroquel. Once she was home and on full dose, she was irritated and dopy-she pushed my husband and I(never before was she violent) as she tried to run away. We took her off that stuff.</p><p>She is now on another SSRI and a sleeping medication. (PTSD makes her sleeping so difficult). She is in residential, so she seems ok, but I am worried at what point frustrations in the real world will make her ideation suicidal again. Her brand of depression is mild until she is tweaked and then she runs and does dangerous, stupid things.(Borderline traits). No medication is going to stop her behaviors, we only hope they slow her brain enough to benefit from the therapy. Medication did benefit our son in this way.</p><p></p><p>Though it is a difficult decision and it must be made kid and family by family, in my belief system, the brain is an organ in the human body that malfunctions like any other organ can. I would not withhold medication for a bad heart or kidney. The problem with the brain is it is so complex and children are developing. Many medications are not tested on kids and we don't know their effect. Unfortunate that we live in a pioneering time. </p><p></p><p>Noone can tell you what to do on this issue. You can see it has been a life saver for some and for others it only dims the behaviors. I will tell you I have seen many kids benefit over the years as a teacher. I have also seen that it can sometimes take years to fugure out (this is more rare in my teacher experience). I am the mother of one success story and one that I do not know where it will go story!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="exhausted, post: 438361, member: 11001"] We were lucky with our son. We started him on ritalin at age 5. He was so active and not focused. He was not a violent kid and did not rage. He did have some tantrums but not bad. We did use the Mandt system once(I had been trained at school), to hold him in time out-he never again left time out. We were lucky with him as we intervened early (sp. preschool and saw the neuropsychologist). He did not suffer in school the way I have seen many ADHD kids suffer with friends and work completion. I was firm and consistant,I used what then was the conventional wisdom-behavioristic methods. Neither my husband or I spanked him or screamed because we had decided before we had kids we did not want to do this-we had both had our bottoms beat many times and felt horrid about it. I won't say I didn't feel like screaming and spanking.This was successful for us-as I've said before he is a great kid and has been off medications. for sometime. Our daughter on the other hand..... She was first diagnosed with ADHD at age 12-the stimulants blurred her vision so she had trouble playing ball and reading. Next the psychiatric. wanted to try an SSRI-our first hospital admit-when she reached therapeutic dose, she had suicidal ideation which she wrote and verbalized. Later on we tried Straterra and I thought we had some good results in combination with another SSRI-again when she was extremely frustrated, she threatened to end her life. At phospital the doctor, after less than 24 hours decided she was bipolar (something we had looked at for the previouse year and did not see). They medicated her on Seroquel. Once she was home and on full dose, she was irritated and dopy-she pushed my husband and I(never before was she violent) as she tried to run away. We took her off that stuff. She is now on another SSRI and a sleeping medication. (PTSD makes her sleeping so difficult). She is in residential, so she seems ok, but I am worried at what point frustrations in the real world will make her ideation suicidal again. Her brand of depression is mild until she is tweaked and then she runs and does dangerous, stupid things.(Borderline traits). No medication is going to stop her behaviors, we only hope they slow her brain enough to benefit from the therapy. Medication did benefit our son in this way. Though it is a difficult decision and it must be made kid and family by family, in my belief system, the brain is an organ in the human body that malfunctions like any other organ can. I would not withhold medication for a bad heart or kidney. The problem with the brain is it is so complex and children are developing. Many medications are not tested on kids and we don't know their effect. Unfortunate that we live in a pioneering time. Noone can tell you what to do on this issue. You can see it has been a life saver for some and for others it only dims the behaviors. I will tell you I have seen many kids benefit over the years as a teacher. I have also seen that it can sometimes take years to fugure out (this is more rare in my teacher experience). I am the mother of one success story and one that I do not know where it will go story! [/QUOTE]
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