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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 546334" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>I've personally been on a ton of medications for my mood disorder. Most take the edge off but it was the therapy and my wanting to change that did most of he work. I also have had horrible toxic reactions to many medications, a few that ended me in the hospital, one in which my throat was closing up (an antidepressant). What works for one person may be horrible for another. Everyone's body chemistry is different. My own experience trying natural and herbal remedies is that they didn't do any good at all. That includes a gluten free diet. That doesn't necessarily mean it won't work for another person, but I'm cynical about the ability of natural remedies to help serious mental health issues. And, yes, you can get side effects from them too. Niacin got me so sick I ended up in ER too, just like with the medications. There is no cure or medication for lying. That requires both therapy and the desire of the patient, young or old, to WANT to change. It's a lot like substance abuse...if you don't want to quit using drugs nothing will help. It's sort of the same with mental illness. If you don't want to change your behavior, sometimes behavior that is deeply ingrained within you, you won't change. With children, you need a therapist who can engage a child into wanting to change, who can make changing a good thing, even fun.</p><p></p><p>My son who is on the autism spectrum also played the medications game. He had toxic reactions to Risperdal and Zyprexa (involuntary movements that can become permanant). Stimulants made him mean and aggressive. Prozac made him nuts. He spent a whole day at school jumping off his desk, saying "I can fly!!!" We took him off of it and he's never done that again. He is 19 now and medication free. Interventions helped him the most. Is your child getting Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) interventions in school? In the community? Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) can look like a personality disorder, but it's not. I'd be very leery of any professional who suggested a personality disorder in an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) child or ANY child who is only nine years old. And I probably wouldn't buy it. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, after a long, long attempt to try to find a good medication fit for me (I was suicidal so not taking medications wasn't an option) I finally found a combo that works almost 100% for me and has made my life good. It took about ten years with tons of therapy and self-help (I desperately wanted to get better). medications can be extremely useful if they are the right ones and if nobody expects them to be magic and erase all bad behavior because that won't happen. In children, there is a lot of medication switching because every medication is just the doctor's best guess. Adults too, unfortunately.</p><p></p><p>before giving it to your child. That's w hat I learned to do. See if you are comfortable with it and learn the side effects so that you can see if your child is having them. Make sure your doctor is more conservative with medications...one medication at a time...so that you can tell if the medication agrees with your child. If you start a child on two medications or change two medications and the child gets worse, it is impossible to know which medication is causing the changed behavior.</p><p></p><p>This is all JMO, but I've had a lot of experience with medication and frankly I think psychiatrists are way too fast to throw various medications at our children. We need to empower ourselves by learning about what is going into our children's bodies. Again JMO. I am not a doctor</p><p></p><p>Good luck, whatever you decide to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 546334, member: 1550"] I've personally been on a ton of medications for my mood disorder. Most take the edge off but it was the therapy and my wanting to change that did most of he work. I also have had horrible toxic reactions to many medications, a few that ended me in the hospital, one in which my throat was closing up (an antidepressant). What works for one person may be horrible for another. Everyone's body chemistry is different. My own experience trying natural and herbal remedies is that they didn't do any good at all. That includes a gluten free diet. That doesn't necessarily mean it won't work for another person, but I'm cynical about the ability of natural remedies to help serious mental health issues. And, yes, you can get side effects from them too. Niacin got me so sick I ended up in ER too, just like with the medications. There is no cure or medication for lying. That requires both therapy and the desire of the patient, young or old, to WANT to change. It's a lot like substance abuse...if you don't want to quit using drugs nothing will help. It's sort of the same with mental illness. If you don't want to change your behavior, sometimes behavior that is deeply ingrained within you, you won't change. With children, you need a therapist who can engage a child into wanting to change, who can make changing a good thing, even fun. My son who is on the autism spectrum also played the medications game. He had toxic reactions to Risperdal and Zyprexa (involuntary movements that can become permanant). Stimulants made him mean and aggressive. Prozac made him nuts. He spent a whole day at school jumping off his desk, saying "I can fly!!!" We took him off of it and he's never done that again. He is 19 now and medication free. Interventions helped him the most. Is your child getting Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) interventions in school? In the community? Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) can look like a personality disorder, but it's not. I'd be very leery of any professional who suggested a personality disorder in an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) child or ANY child who is only nine years old. And I probably wouldn't buy it. On the other hand, after a long, long attempt to try to find a good medication fit for me (I was suicidal so not taking medications wasn't an option) I finally found a combo that works almost 100% for me and has made my life good. It took about ten years with tons of therapy and self-help (I desperately wanted to get better). medications can be extremely useful if they are the right ones and if nobody expects them to be magic and erase all bad behavior because that won't happen. In children, there is a lot of medication switching because every medication is just the doctor's best guess. Adults too, unfortunately. before giving it to your child. That's w hat I learned to do. See if you are comfortable with it and learn the side effects so that you can see if your child is having them. Make sure your doctor is more conservative with medications...one medication at a time...so that you can tell if the medication agrees with your child. If you start a child on two medications or change two medications and the child gets worse, it is impossible to know which medication is causing the changed behavior. This is all JMO, but I've had a lot of experience with medication and frankly I think psychiatrists are way too fast to throw various medications at our children. We need to empower ourselves by learning about what is going into our children's bodies. Again JMO. I am not a doctor Good luck, whatever you decide to do. [/QUOTE]
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