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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 396540" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I agree with confuzzled that you may be very unaware of the pressure that isput onto kids for these "preassessment" tests. How many of us were ABLE to understand as kids that we had to take tests that we were not supposed to be able to pass? Often the degree of pressure varies dramatically between teachers and also between schools. I know of one school that is divided into several smaller "schools" because they serve over 600 kids in each grade. In the "academic" group many of the kids (high school age) were not aware that they were not supposed to pass these pretests. Other kids in the school on vocational tracks did not seem to be as pressured because they were given totally different expectations for the exact same tests.</p><p> </p><p>When you add in the incredibly high error rates of many of the standardized tests, and each child's personal expectations, it can be a really awful experience. Though you say she has taken them before and knows the drill, would you have believed someone who told you that you had to take a big long test but you were not supposed to get a "good grade" or pass the test? If she has heard that before but been able to finish the tests or get good scores on them, she may truly not understand what is expected.</p><p> </p><p>I took all the standardized tests in high school. It was very rare that I did not finish each section - and I would NEVER have believed anyone who told me that teachers took a big part of a day or week to give us tests so we could "fail" them. And my father had a masters in education and made me read many of the textbooks that were required reading for his masters. NO WAY would I have "bought" that I was not supposed to do very well and get the best possible scores.</p><p> </p><p>FYI - you do NO favors by making a teen read books about how to teach, write tests, etc... The teen's teachers will NOT NOT NOT appreciate it!!! Esp if the student is right about any criticisms of the school/teachers/books/tests! NO favors at all. LOL!!! My dad knew my trig teacher and she let us both know that several of my teachers were NOT happy, esp when I brought textbooks on education to school to help explain why what we were experiencing was NOT helping us. NO ONE is as self righteous as a teen with this kind of info in her head!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 396540, member: 1233"] I agree with confuzzled that you may be very unaware of the pressure that isput onto kids for these "preassessment" tests. How many of us were ABLE to understand as kids that we had to take tests that we were not supposed to be able to pass? Often the degree of pressure varies dramatically between teachers and also between schools. I know of one school that is divided into several smaller "schools" because they serve over 600 kids in each grade. In the "academic" group many of the kids (high school age) were not aware that they were not supposed to pass these pretests. Other kids in the school on vocational tracks did not seem to be as pressured because they were given totally different expectations for the exact same tests. When you add in the incredibly high error rates of many of the standardized tests, and each child's personal expectations, it can be a really awful experience. Though you say she has taken them before and knows the drill, would you have believed someone who told you that you had to take a big long test but you were not supposed to get a "good grade" or pass the test? If she has heard that before but been able to finish the tests or get good scores on them, she may truly not understand what is expected. I took all the standardized tests in high school. It was very rare that I did not finish each section - and I would NEVER have believed anyone who told me that teachers took a big part of a day or week to give us tests so we could "fail" them. And my father had a masters in education and made me read many of the textbooks that were required reading for his masters. NO WAY would I have "bought" that I was not supposed to do very well and get the best possible scores. FYI - you do NO favors by making a teen read books about how to teach, write tests, etc... The teen's teachers will NOT NOT NOT appreciate it!!! Esp if the student is right about any criticisms of the school/teachers/books/tests! NO favors at all. LOL!!! My dad knew my trig teacher and she let us both know that several of my teachers were NOT happy, esp when I brought textbooks on education to school to help explain why what we were experiencing was NOT helping us. NO ONE is as self righteous as a teen with this kind of info in her head!!! [/QUOTE]
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