Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New profile posts
Latest activity
Internet Search
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Parent Support Forums
Special Ed 101
Middle school
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Ropefree" data-source="post: 243146" data-attributes="member: 6271"><p>As a parent of a boy with adhd, and family members with other diagnosis who I have witnessed go through public schools and private as well I want to applaud you first of all for your care to get your child the appropriate education first of all.</p><p></p><p>As well as the obvious treatment that you have sought.</p><p></p><p>Middle schools are much more frightening first of all as all the students are in puberty. The one my son went to had this reputation that curls hair for parents. However during his middle school experiance also was this award winner conselor who had reoriented the services from her can do approach to behavior supports. For example a friendship club that met during lunch hour and where she lead the group in the explorations of what all is involved in friendships.</p><p></p><p>Another wonderful vp took my son on "as his" for the entirity of his time at the middle school. This ment that when things came up he was in the tutalage of one caring adult for whatever came up. And this was a truly priceless experiance all the way around.</p><p></p><p>Academicly I have found myself wishing that I had thought of going out to get another point of view from a non-doe source specializing in education services, education therapy who was specializing in the edcuation and behavior supports for adhd as the info about those, though detailed by many sources was just not accomplished with the appropriate enthusiasm that my son did need. Accepting that the teachers were not able to accommplish what was possible for him for all the reasons that they would bring up. Our kids need help and support and when those are not implimented for any reason it is our childs free appropriate education that is trimmed in the balance. </p><p></p><p>Many times the meathod or technique that I brought to the iep, even the Special Education district head or the Occupational Therapist (OT) brought to the 504/or iep meeting was met with the "no can do" attitude. My clearest illustration surrounding the use of a corral for doing assignments and tests to aid in distractablilty. the first time that was proposed in grade 4 the teacher said that if she let him do that she would have to let all the students do that and NO. She had a corral in her classroom. For her purposes it was strictly for punishment type </p><p>purposes.</p><p></p><p>In middle school there were corrals in plenty in the library. And although my son impressed the librarian by his daily use of the library in the corral reading and doing his homework during lunches and recess the school policy disallowed what was in his IEP due to a policy that a teacher as well as the librarian had to supervise uses of the library during class times.</p><p></p><p>In retrospect what I feel would have been better is to have explored the ed supports outside the school and then sought the inclusion of those services under his iep to pay for them. Find the expert who has the skill and technique to offer your son what he needs in the reg ed setting and let that person communicate in the iep meeting with the other teachers ect who may or may not choose to, or have the personality or elan to do this.</p><p>Whatever the school may wet blanket that he needs get it for him anyway.</p><p>Change the way the schools adress these things in the trail you blaze with your kid and his success.</p><p>The relationships that are established in the public schools from elementary to high school are important for kids as well. I had fantastic moments over these years where kids who my son had known from elementary to high school would reflect the changes they see from their point of view. The maturation developemental challenges are amoung these kids and those relationships are important.</p><p></p><p>Also having had the Special Education and friendship club where kids with far more limiting aflections it is heartwarming to see the gentle kindness and comeradeie he brings to others he has known through school when our paths cross in life.</p><p></p><p>If you want your son in that private school and to have the Christian based education and the iep provisions are not what they want to address I would write the letter that has his attributes in it and take the next step to see how they would approach his needs. </p><p></p><p>As for the risk of bullies...the schools my son attended do not tolerate bullies but being a bully is not something that you can just put a sign up and it won't happen. Learning how to handle and how to get help is one of the things that are taught in schools. The bully my son contended in middle school required calls to the conselor. As a parent I asked that she intervien and she did. Victum victumizer, bully bullied are patterns that can be dealt with and learned from in a good way. not tolerating behavior but learning the lessons in that and moving on.</p><p>I like the book titled HELP MY SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD for my purposes primarily for using language around my childs condition, behavior and goal setting.</p><p></p><p>I think in general for any younge person who has learning challenge the self esttem issues that are internalized are the tough challenge. Showing up and doing the school time is an important way to learn some lessons I am not sure are possible in other environments. Ultimately all children become adults who are going to interact with a variety of people. </p><p></p><p>Whatever avenue you do choose I feel confident you are using your best judgement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ropefree, post: 243146, member: 6271"] As a parent of a boy with adhd, and family members with other diagnosis who I have witnessed go through public schools and private as well I want to applaud you first of all for your care to get your child the appropriate education first of all. As well as the obvious treatment that you have sought. Middle schools are much more frightening first of all as all the students are in puberty. The one my son went to had this reputation that curls hair for parents. However during his middle school experiance also was this award winner conselor who had reoriented the services from her can do approach to behavior supports. For example a friendship club that met during lunch hour and where she lead the group in the explorations of what all is involved in friendships. Another wonderful vp took my son on "as his" for the entirity of his time at the middle school. This ment that when things came up he was in the tutalage of one caring adult for whatever came up. And this was a truly priceless experiance all the way around. Academicly I have found myself wishing that I had thought of going out to get another point of view from a non-doe source specializing in education services, education therapy who was specializing in the edcuation and behavior supports for adhd as the info about those, though detailed by many sources was just not accomplished with the appropriate enthusiasm that my son did need. Accepting that the teachers were not able to accommplish what was possible for him for all the reasons that they would bring up. Our kids need help and support and when those are not implimented for any reason it is our childs free appropriate education that is trimmed in the balance. Many times the meathod or technique that I brought to the iep, even the Special Education district head or the Occupational Therapist (OT) brought to the 504/or iep meeting was met with the "no can do" attitude. My clearest illustration surrounding the use of a corral for doing assignments and tests to aid in distractablilty. the first time that was proposed in grade 4 the teacher said that if she let him do that she would have to let all the students do that and NO. She had a corral in her classroom. For her purposes it was strictly for punishment type purposes. In middle school there were corrals in plenty in the library. And although my son impressed the librarian by his daily use of the library in the corral reading and doing his homework during lunches and recess the school policy disallowed what was in his IEP due to a policy that a teacher as well as the librarian had to supervise uses of the library during class times. In retrospect what I feel would have been better is to have explored the ed supports outside the school and then sought the inclusion of those services under his iep to pay for them. Find the expert who has the skill and technique to offer your son what he needs in the reg ed setting and let that person communicate in the iep meeting with the other teachers ect who may or may not choose to, or have the personality or elan to do this. Whatever the school may wet blanket that he needs get it for him anyway. Change the way the schools adress these things in the trail you blaze with your kid and his success. The relationships that are established in the public schools from elementary to high school are important for kids as well. I had fantastic moments over these years where kids who my son had known from elementary to high school would reflect the changes they see from their point of view. The maturation developemental challenges are amoung these kids and those relationships are important. Also having had the Special Education and friendship club where kids with far more limiting aflections it is heartwarming to see the gentle kindness and comeradeie he brings to others he has known through school when our paths cross in life. If you want your son in that private school and to have the Christian based education and the iep provisions are not what they want to address I would write the letter that has his attributes in it and take the next step to see how they would approach his needs. As for the risk of bullies...the schools my son attended do not tolerate bullies but being a bully is not something that you can just put a sign up and it won't happen. Learning how to handle and how to get help is one of the things that are taught in schools. The bully my son contended in middle school required calls to the conselor. As a parent I asked that she intervien and she did. Victum victumizer, bully bullied are patterns that can be dealt with and learned from in a good way. not tolerating behavior but learning the lessons in that and moving on. I like the book titled HELP MY SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD for my purposes primarily for using language around my childs condition, behavior and goal setting. I think in general for any younge person who has learning challenge the self esttem issues that are internalized are the tough challenge. Showing up and doing the school time is an important way to learn some lessons I am not sure are possible in other environments. Ultimately all children become adults who are going to interact with a variety of people. Whatever avenue you do choose I feel confident you are using your best judgement. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Parent Support Forums
Special Ed 101
Middle school
Top