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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 259515" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>The GAL had been over there telling him 2 weeks ago that it was "his mom's" fault that he was there and the PO told him that this past week. That was in a different thread- I think some of this confusion has to do with just posting on a forum where all people aren't reading every thread- not that I expect them to, it's just difficult to know what someone has read previously. I do believe him because I've heard them say similar things myself. I'm pretty sure I'm not that delusional. LOL!!</p><p></p><p>We probably spend an average of 50 mins talking about chit-chat things and maybe 10 mins talking about things like this. I don't have a problem with that- I think he needs to be able to talk to someone about what is bothering him. He hasn't been transferred yet which means he does not have any kind of therapist assigned to him. I don't know how much, if any, that will change things. Another insconsistency: the mental health profs (outside Department of Juvenile Justice) say to push for family therapy and anything else possible while difficult child is in there so we can work some things out before he gets out in order to prevent him coming home with nothing being any different. That's very different than taking a "don't talk about it" approach- I don't know yet where the state Department of Juvenile Justice stands on this, but I will obviously do it whichever way they say. I did tell them (the people at state Department of Juvenile Justice) already that his psychiatrist/therapist at the last psychiatric hospital said we needed this. </p><p></p><p>I'm trying to support their (Department of Juvenile Justice's) efforts and him by telling him that maybe so much of it isn't a mental health problem and we need to go along with this method for as long as he's in there. I don't really see these conversations as re-hashing things. It isn;t like we are talking about things that happened 2 months ago or a year ago. And it's not like I can fool myself into thinking that once he's released, all problems are solved and he can just come back home and he'll be a easy child and we won't have any further issues to deal with.</p><p></p><p>I'm not filing any complaints- I know they have a suicide room at their detention centers, which obviously means they aren't tdo'ing all kids when they are concerned about suicide. There is nothing I can report.</p><p></p><p>The simple way of putting all this is that the gal says she wants mental health treatment for difficult child just like I do- and this is what she says now as well as 2 years ago. But, when there was conflict between the PO and me which usually was because the PO was trying to tell me to do things that went against what I thought and what the psychiatrist/therapist were telling me and the PO didn't care to hear any of that from me, she would just tell difficult child that I should change and I was this way or that way, leaving a lot of tensions between us- especially when the PO refused to take any action before things got to this point and wouldn't even respond to the psychiatric hospital- the GAL hears there is conflict between the PO and me and goes into court stating how "bad" (so-to-speak- not her exact word) I am. If she had taken the time to look at specific things that were done, said, and disagreed upon, she might have come to a different conclusion. </p><p></p><p>I'm only bringing all that up for the benefit of those who might read this and not get the jest of why this is a thorn in my side. The defense attny suggested asking for a change in gals- he isn't real fond of this one either. Hopefully, now that difficult child is not at home for a while and ONE agency is solely responsible for care, supervision, education, and mental health treatment (if you want to call it that), some of this can get resolved. At least during processing, one person or team will be looking at psychiatric hospital records, what the PO wants, etc. Hopefully someone will notice that his charge and what profs say and so forth do not add up with what PO says. I don't care anymore about having her held accountable- I care about getting everyone on the same page so that we don't have such a mess when difficult child's time is up. If their way works and there is no mental illness, then I am happy to work with that upon difficult child's release- but gal will have to get on board with that too and mental health treatment needs to come off the court order. If he has MI, then they will substanitate that and these people need to accept it and get off my back. In theory anyway. LOL!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 259515, member: 3699"] The GAL had been over there telling him 2 weeks ago that it was "his mom's" fault that he was there and the PO told him that this past week. That was in a different thread- I think some of this confusion has to do with just posting on a forum where all people aren't reading every thread- not that I expect them to, it's just difficult to know what someone has read previously. I do believe him because I've heard them say similar things myself. I'm pretty sure I'm not that delusional. LOL!! We probably spend an average of 50 mins talking about chit-chat things and maybe 10 mins talking about things like this. I don't have a problem with that- I think he needs to be able to talk to someone about what is bothering him. He hasn't been transferred yet which means he does not have any kind of therapist assigned to him. I don't know how much, if any, that will change things. Another insconsistency: the mental health profs (outside Department of Juvenile Justice) say to push for family therapy and anything else possible while difficult child is in there so we can work some things out before he gets out in order to prevent him coming home with nothing being any different. That's very different than taking a "don't talk about it" approach- I don't know yet where the state Department of Juvenile Justice stands on this, but I will obviously do it whichever way they say. I did tell them (the people at state Department of Juvenile Justice) already that his psychiatrist/therapist at the last psychiatric hospital said we needed this. I'm trying to support their (Department of Juvenile Justice's) efforts and him by telling him that maybe so much of it isn't a mental health problem and we need to go along with this method for as long as he's in there. I don't really see these conversations as re-hashing things. It isn;t like we are talking about things that happened 2 months ago or a year ago. And it's not like I can fool myself into thinking that once he's released, all problems are solved and he can just come back home and he'll be a easy child and we won't have any further issues to deal with. I'm not filing any complaints- I know they have a suicide room at their detention centers, which obviously means they aren't tdo'ing all kids when they are concerned about suicide. There is nothing I can report. The simple way of putting all this is that the gal says she wants mental health treatment for difficult child just like I do- and this is what she says now as well as 2 years ago. But, when there was conflict between the PO and me which usually was because the PO was trying to tell me to do things that went against what I thought and what the psychiatrist/therapist were telling me and the PO didn't care to hear any of that from me, she would just tell difficult child that I should change and I was this way or that way, leaving a lot of tensions between us- especially when the PO refused to take any action before things got to this point and wouldn't even respond to the psychiatric hospital- the GAL hears there is conflict between the PO and me and goes into court stating how "bad" (so-to-speak- not her exact word) I am. If she had taken the time to look at specific things that were done, said, and disagreed upon, she might have come to a different conclusion. I'm only bringing all that up for the benefit of those who might read this and not get the jest of why this is a thorn in my side. The defense attny suggested asking for a change in gals- he isn't real fond of this one either. Hopefully, now that difficult child is not at home for a while and ONE agency is solely responsible for care, supervision, education, and mental health treatment (if you want to call it that), some of this can get resolved. At least during processing, one person or team will be looking at psychiatric hospital records, what the PO wants, etc. Hopefully someone will notice that his charge and what profs say and so forth do not add up with what PO says. I don't care anymore about having her held accountable- I care about getting everyone on the same page so that we don't have such a mess when difficult child's time is up. If their way works and there is no mental illness, then I am happy to work with that upon difficult child's release- but gal will have to get on board with that too and mental health treatment needs to come off the court order. If he has MI, then they will substanitate that and these people need to accept it and get off my back. In theory anyway. LOL! [/QUOTE]
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