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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 467601" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>This is just awondering, I know no one has a for sure answer, but comments have been made about life long criminals etc....I am not talking about a child who is adopted already with these problems who you know has lots of damage and issues and then you try to help and it didn't work, I am asking about birth children where you know there hasn't been a history of abuse---doesn't mean that nothing happened in the home, kid could have had birth injury, been ill, had uncontrollable pain etc. to start the process but...) </p><p></p><p>I have never read any of the books mentioned about Ted Bundy and other serial killers. I <em>have</em> read the posts here (and seen news magazine shows) that talk about people who commit terrible crimes and how they had a history of x,y,z. happen to them. But I have never heard whether any of these people actually had truly appropriate intervention, support for their families, in-home treatment of the child and if Residential Treatment Center (RTC) not just "Juvie" or emergency Residential Treatment Center (RTC) placement where they didn't really work with he child's whole system. Are there any stories where these kinds of really life long supports were in place and then really didn't work (if not to change them but to keep them in low risk placements)? Maybe I dont want to know. </p><p></p><p>In my son's case, I know there are other factors and he is not unattached. He is insecurely attached though and he does have (as most Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids do) a hard time taking the perspective of others. He doesn't predict or understand the seriousness of consequences for his actions. Because of all of that , he has a risk management plan and he is never not supervised. Even without the plan, I would thru common sense take steps. No one would get seriously injured because he would never have a weapon and we are constantly on guard for signs he is falling apart. I move lamps or anything out of the way if he is melting down or having seizures. I dig thru his backpack every morning. Teachers dig thru it at school too. (we have to to get papers and stuff anyway so he knows it is not private.) I dont own any knives or scissors that are not locked up. I know I do and will make mistakes and I get frustrated he gets ahold of things he shouldn't have, but there are not any lethal weapons that for sure could cause multiple killings etc. like those people did. I correct mistakes, email all teams of issues (like the cigarette butts he was collecting little by little in his pockets) and keep pretty hypervigilant. It is exhausting but it is what he needs and deserves, not his fault he has this brain injury. I'm sure few parents of a kid who shoots school kids or kills family members really ever saw it coming, but how many of them had guns in the home or where a kid knew about it and they were not locked up at a gun place or at least where they tried to predict and prevent impulsive or premeditated acts. I am not blaming all the parents of kids who do this because I HAVE heard of stories where people begged for help and didn't get it. I am askng about those who DO get the help, DO work hard like EPT is trying to do..... do we have stories about those kids growing up and still comitting these crimes? </p><p></p><p>Maybe I dont want to know...sigh.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 467601, member: 12886"] This is just awondering, I know no one has a for sure answer, but comments have been made about life long criminals etc....I am not talking about a child who is adopted already with these problems who you know has lots of damage and issues and then you try to help and it didn't work, I am asking about birth children where you know there hasn't been a history of abuse---doesn't mean that nothing happened in the home, kid could have had birth injury, been ill, had uncontrollable pain etc. to start the process but...) I have never read any of the books mentioned about Ted Bundy and other serial killers. I [I]have[/I] read the posts here (and seen news magazine shows) that talk about people who commit terrible crimes and how they had a history of x,y,z. happen to them. But I have never heard whether any of these people actually had truly appropriate intervention, support for their families, in-home treatment of the child and if Residential Treatment Center (RTC) not just "Juvie" or emergency Residential Treatment Center (RTC) placement where they didn't really work with he child's whole system. Are there any stories where these kinds of really life long supports were in place and then really didn't work (if not to change them but to keep them in low risk placements)? Maybe I dont want to know. In my son's case, I know there are other factors and he is not unattached. He is insecurely attached though and he does have (as most Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids do) a hard time taking the perspective of others. He doesn't predict or understand the seriousness of consequences for his actions. Because of all of that , he has a risk management plan and he is never not supervised. Even without the plan, I would thru common sense take steps. No one would get seriously injured because he would never have a weapon and we are constantly on guard for signs he is falling apart. I move lamps or anything out of the way if he is melting down or having seizures. I dig thru his backpack every morning. Teachers dig thru it at school too. (we have to to get papers and stuff anyway so he knows it is not private.) I dont own any knives or scissors that are not locked up. I know I do and will make mistakes and I get frustrated he gets ahold of things he shouldn't have, but there are not any lethal weapons that for sure could cause multiple killings etc. like those people did. I correct mistakes, email all teams of issues (like the cigarette butts he was collecting little by little in his pockets) and keep pretty hypervigilant. It is exhausting but it is what he needs and deserves, not his fault he has this brain injury. I'm sure few parents of a kid who shoots school kids or kills family members really ever saw it coming, but how many of them had guns in the home or where a kid knew about it and they were not locked up at a gun place or at least where they tried to predict and prevent impulsive or premeditated acts. I am not blaming all the parents of kids who do this because I HAVE heard of stories where people begged for help and didn't get it. I am askng about those who DO get the help, DO work hard like EPT is trying to do..... do we have stories about those kids growing up and still comitting these crimes? Maybe I dont want to know...sigh. [/QUOTE]
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