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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 228833" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I've been experimenting with mineral make-up lately. Some variable success.</p><p></p><p>First, I didn't want to buy the expensive stuff advertised with long advertorials on TV - tose ad placements are expensive and the costs have to be recovered somehow, hence the stuff is ridiculously expensive. I figured if the stuff was good enough, soon the mainline cosmetics companies would bring it out bit without te expensive advertising to push the prices up.</p><p></p><p>And so it has been. I bought my first lot through Avon. I've gone for years without wearing much make-up, usually only eyeshadow and maybe some lipstick, but with my weight loss and having mother in law loudly telling anyone who complimented me, how sick and pale I looked, I thought, "I'll show you," and began wearing foundation and blush again.</p><p></p><p>I found a lot of my stuff is old and technology has improved. Also, with mother in law & sister in law both having skin that reacts to most cosmetics, I did some research on mother in law's behalf a few years ago, and discovered that just about all cosmetics sold these days have preservatives in them, which I believe are causing a sudden increase in reactions, to cosmetics that previously were not a problem. I presume it is also a problem in the US. It would be about 3 years ago that mother in law first reported skin reactions to her favourite hypo-allergenic moisturiser. She thought her bottle had "gone off" even though it was new, so with me along she visited the cosmetics counter in the big stores, to test what they had. And yes, she reacted again. Her skin begins to burn fairly quickly after putting the problem product on her face. I asked the person on the counter and she said that the formulation had recently been changed to bring it into line with new regulations; the packaging no longer said "free from preservatives".</p><p></p><p>I checked online, rang various authorities, found this was true. The law made them put preservatives in.</p><p></p><p>At about the same time, I got contact lenses. The idea was, I would wear them swimming. The trouble is, my eyes react to preservatives. I tried eye drops, I tried pure saline drops and found I reacted to EVERYTHING except ampoules of saline sold for injection. So while I can wear contact lenses, I need to rinse them in preservative-free saline before putting them in my eyes.</p><p></p><p>Which all gave me furiously to think, as they say. I passed all this info on to mother in law & sister in law of course, although sometimes I wonder at how some people seem to thrive on deliberate stupidity. sister in law was telling us this trip that she can't use products "containing SPF" because she's "allergic to SPF". Hence she won't be able to use mineral make-up, because it contains SPF.</p><p></p><p>I explained yet again about the preservatives that are now in just about every cosmetic. However, in Australia at least, mineral make-up DOES NOT have preservatives, because there's nothing in it to go "off". Mineral make-up is, literally, ground-up rock. If you want a sparkle, use mica. Various minerals have various natural colours. In Australia we should especially understand this, with Aboriginal culture often using various ochres as part of ceremony, "body paint" in different colours as well as traditional art. Mineral make-up is little more than ochre, carefully selected and blended to give the shade you want. THAT'S why it shouldn't be expensive. It's also why it should be good for skins which otherwise react to various chemical ingredients. If you react to mineral make-up, then I suspect there's something else in it that's NOT mineral.</p><p></p><p>SPF protection in mineral make-up - that comes purely from the mechanical barrier that the particles make. If you have a shimmery make-up for example, it undoubtedly has mica in it which is reflective. Any light reflected from the face is light that doesn't get absorbed to burn. A common ingredient in really good high SPF products is titanium dioxide, which is an inert white mineral.</p><p></p><p>Back to mineral make-up for cosmetic reasons - the problem I've found (apart from the products always being out of stock) is getting the colour right. I bought some from Avon, choosing the same shade name (and it also looked the same) as a cream Avon make-up that I really like. But the mineral make-up is so much darker - it looks orange!</p><p></p><p>My skin changes colour depending on the time of year. I was expecting to get more tan before difficult child 1's wedding, but it didn't happen (lack of summer conditions). So I still had my winter greenish-white skin (sallow is being polite). I used the mineral make-up I had and a few weeks ago husband said, "I'm glad you're not wearing that make-up so much any more - you looked like you stuck your face in a flour bag at the wedding."</p><p></p><p>So what I've been doing is wearing the mineral make-up just as blush. Since getting some sun on my face (at last) I don't feel I need to cover up so much. I'm still experimenting, I an envious of those of you who have found a make-up that is the same colour - that is the aim, after all! You shouldn't be wearing foundation to change the shade of your face (unless it is a stage performance). You should instead match your foundation shade to your skin colour, then use your foundation to mask any major colour variations and blemishes.</p><p></p><p>While repeatedly painting my face a garish orange in mt recent experiments, I cast my mind back to a girl husband & I knew years ago. We were involved in a uni production of "Godspell" and this girl was beautiful, in an Italian/Tuscan sort of way. She had a classic peaches-and-cream complexion which she persisted in covering with a dark foundation. I was also assisting with the production make-up but when it came to doing her stage make-up, she was the only one I didn't need to darken (OK, there was also the bloke from south India). I made her wash her face off thorough,y and she refused to let anyone (especially her boyfriend) see her "naked face". But those of us who peeked were astonished - she was even more beautiful! She'd been wearing so much make-up that no sun had touched her face (couldn't get through the barrier). We didn't succeed in convincing her, but she really would have been better off wearing a foundation closer to her own skin shade, and then if she felt she needed more colour, using a trace of blush.</p><p></p><p>As soon as you pile on the fake colour, you have to keep it going or somewhere there is a border. If, on the other hand, you only add colour where it's needed (such as a trace of blush) then you can get people saying, "I love your make-up, it's flawless, I can't even see where you've applied it!"</p><p></p><p>I had a women come up to me in the supermarket and touch my face. "What foundation are you wearing?" she asked.</p><p>"None," I told her. </p><p>She exclaimed about my skin being flawless (what was she smoking?) and moved on and it made me realise, a lot of people just don't understand how make-up is supposed to work. I've been taught stage make-up by some really qualified people.</p><p></p><p>But even with my experience, I'm on my second pot of mineral make-up and still trying to make it work. So even I can make mistakes!</p><p></p><p>Just because I understand make-up doesn't mean I can always make it look good on me. Less is more, unless you're trying to fool a short-sighted mother in law trying to find fault with your appearance!</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 228833, member: 1991"] I've been experimenting with mineral make-up lately. Some variable success. First, I didn't want to buy the expensive stuff advertised with long advertorials on TV - tose ad placements are expensive and the costs have to be recovered somehow, hence the stuff is ridiculously expensive. I figured if the stuff was good enough, soon the mainline cosmetics companies would bring it out bit without te expensive advertising to push the prices up. And so it has been. I bought my first lot through Avon. I've gone for years without wearing much make-up, usually only eyeshadow and maybe some lipstick, but with my weight loss and having mother in law loudly telling anyone who complimented me, how sick and pale I looked, I thought, "I'll show you," and began wearing foundation and blush again. I found a lot of my stuff is old and technology has improved. Also, with mother in law & sister in law both having skin that reacts to most cosmetics, I did some research on mother in law's behalf a few years ago, and discovered that just about all cosmetics sold these days have preservatives in them, which I believe are causing a sudden increase in reactions, to cosmetics that previously were not a problem. I presume it is also a problem in the US. It would be about 3 years ago that mother in law first reported skin reactions to her favourite hypo-allergenic moisturiser. She thought her bottle had "gone off" even though it was new, so with me along she visited the cosmetics counter in the big stores, to test what they had. And yes, she reacted again. Her skin begins to burn fairly quickly after putting the problem product on her face. I asked the person on the counter and she said that the formulation had recently been changed to bring it into line with new regulations; the packaging no longer said "free from preservatives". I checked online, rang various authorities, found this was true. The law made them put preservatives in. At about the same time, I got contact lenses. The idea was, I would wear them swimming. The trouble is, my eyes react to preservatives. I tried eye drops, I tried pure saline drops and found I reacted to EVERYTHING except ampoules of saline sold for injection. So while I can wear contact lenses, I need to rinse them in preservative-free saline before putting them in my eyes. Which all gave me furiously to think, as they say. I passed all this info on to mother in law & sister in law of course, although sometimes I wonder at how some people seem to thrive on deliberate stupidity. sister in law was telling us this trip that she can't use products "containing SPF" because she's "allergic to SPF". Hence she won't be able to use mineral make-up, because it contains SPF. I explained yet again about the preservatives that are now in just about every cosmetic. However, in Australia at least, mineral make-up DOES NOT have preservatives, because there's nothing in it to go "off". Mineral make-up is, literally, ground-up rock. If you want a sparkle, use mica. Various minerals have various natural colours. In Australia we should especially understand this, with Aboriginal culture often using various ochres as part of ceremony, "body paint" in different colours as well as traditional art. Mineral make-up is little more than ochre, carefully selected and blended to give the shade you want. THAT'S why it shouldn't be expensive. It's also why it should be good for skins which otherwise react to various chemical ingredients. If you react to mineral make-up, then I suspect there's something else in it that's NOT mineral. SPF protection in mineral make-up - that comes purely from the mechanical barrier that the particles make. If you have a shimmery make-up for example, it undoubtedly has mica in it which is reflective. Any light reflected from the face is light that doesn't get absorbed to burn. A common ingredient in really good high SPF products is titanium dioxide, which is an inert white mineral. Back to mineral make-up for cosmetic reasons - the problem I've found (apart from the products always being out of stock) is getting the colour right. I bought some from Avon, choosing the same shade name (and it also looked the same) as a cream Avon make-up that I really like. But the mineral make-up is so much darker - it looks orange! My skin changes colour depending on the time of year. I was expecting to get more tan before difficult child 1's wedding, but it didn't happen (lack of summer conditions). So I still had my winter greenish-white skin (sallow is being polite). I used the mineral make-up I had and a few weeks ago husband said, "I'm glad you're not wearing that make-up so much any more - you looked like you stuck your face in a flour bag at the wedding." So what I've been doing is wearing the mineral make-up just as blush. Since getting some sun on my face (at last) I don't feel I need to cover up so much. I'm still experimenting, I an envious of those of you who have found a make-up that is the same colour - that is the aim, after all! You shouldn't be wearing foundation to change the shade of your face (unless it is a stage performance). You should instead match your foundation shade to your skin colour, then use your foundation to mask any major colour variations and blemishes. While repeatedly painting my face a garish orange in mt recent experiments, I cast my mind back to a girl husband & I knew years ago. We were involved in a uni production of "Godspell" and this girl was beautiful, in an Italian/Tuscan sort of way. She had a classic peaches-and-cream complexion which she persisted in covering with a dark foundation. I was also assisting with the production make-up but when it came to doing her stage make-up, she was the only one I didn't need to darken (OK, there was also the bloke from south India). I made her wash her face off thorough,y and she refused to let anyone (especially her boyfriend) see her "naked face". But those of us who peeked were astonished - she was even more beautiful! She'd been wearing so much make-up that no sun had touched her face (couldn't get through the barrier). We didn't succeed in convincing her, but she really would have been better off wearing a foundation closer to her own skin shade, and then if she felt she needed more colour, using a trace of blush. As soon as you pile on the fake colour, you have to keep it going or somewhere there is a border. If, on the other hand, you only add colour where it's needed (such as a trace of blush) then you can get people saying, "I love your make-up, it's flawless, I can't even see where you've applied it!" I had a women come up to me in the supermarket and touch my face. "What foundation are you wearing?" she asked. "None," I told her. She exclaimed about my skin being flawless (what was she smoking?) and moved on and it made me realise, a lot of people just don't understand how make-up is supposed to work. I've been taught stage make-up by some really qualified people. But even with my experience, I'm on my second pot of mineral make-up and still trying to make it work. So even I can make mistakes! Just because I understand make-up doesn't mean I can always make it look good on me. Less is more, unless you're trying to fool a short-sighted mother in law trying to find fault with your appearance! Marg [/QUOTE]
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