You may remember my situation. My only child, 36 years old, was living in FL. He called last October, since his girlfriend left him. She has supported him off and on for years. In March they both came to my house. I found out that they are addicted to spice and are both alcoholics. They also smoke pot. girlfriend has found a job, but she still uses drug. She is a medical assistant. She will probably lose her job any day now. They are in the home of my friend until August 31. On Friday and Saturday nights, they do drugs as soon as girlfriend is home from work until 7:00 am. I have notified difficult child that we have no relationship until he has been in recovery for quite some time. I don't expect that will ever happen, but I am a Christian. We are taught to hope. I have always heard that the most difficult substance abuse cases are the results of starting the abuse at a young age. My difficult child began drinking at 12 years of age. I did not know about the drinking until he was 15 years old. He may be lying about starting so young, I don't know. I am thinking that he did damage to his brain by starting that young. The only time he stopped drinking was during the six and 1/2 years he was in juvenile prison. I have heard of people recovering, even when they started very young. I assume it is more difficult. Of course, this is beside the point right now, he has no intention of quitting. My husband and I are going to continue to detach even when they are on the streets again. I doubt they will be able to find a place to live. difficult child has no income and his girlfriend only makes $14 an hour.