My son was diagnosed with idiopathic chondrolysis

sirjames

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Hi Everyone.

My wife was diagnosed with idiopathic chondrolysis of the hip (unknown cause of deterioration to the articular cartilage of the femur head and acetabulum joint capsule) back when she was 13. This is back during the mid 1990's, when very little was known about the disease.

I found this forum and because I am a student, figured some of my research might be helpful to others who have suffered or have a loved one who has this rare condition. I just wrote a research paper on it and am now on my second paper. For those who have looked into research, you are probably aware that there is not much information around.

If you agree, or disagree with any of this information, please let me know. It may be helpful to others and it would be interesting to know when the person you know was diagnosed.

Now, I don't want to just copy and paste my paper, so I'll just try to summarize it to keep in brief.

Today, there is only 130 cases documented in medical journals, right now there are only about 123. The average age that it onsets is about 11 years old (previously thought about 13) and girls are 6x more likely to get it than boys are. It usually only affects one hip (unilateral). In 2005, researchers discovered the the majority of those who are affected by idiopathic chondrolysis of the hip, were of those who had more melanin in their skin (darker skin). They used to believe this disease was predominantly to people who are of African descendant, but the 2005 case had 20 kids from India, 18 girls and 2 boys. There are also cases of Caucasians who have this disease, but like previous said, it occurs more in those with darker skin pigments.

For those who want to know the cause, remember, this is not a fact, however it is believed that some people are genetic predisposition to idiopathic chondrolysis, researchers believe this because the serum has abnormalities and accumulating chronic inflammation within the cells of the synovium located in those joints that have been affected by idiopathic chondrolysis.

There are 3 phases of the disease. The good news is most don't go past stage 1.

1 - 50-60% - range of motion and pain is reduced and greatly improved. Rare, but sometimes it can recover almost completely.
2 - Range of motion becomes limited, which happens because of the hip joint becoming stiff
3 - Sadly, the worst case is that chondrocyte necrosis takes place (cartilage cells die) and the acetabulum and femur head fused together. If this happens, the person has a hard time being mobile.

My wife had the 3rd phase, the worst type.

Treatment -

There are surgical and non-surgical ways to handle idiopathic chondrolysis of the hip as you guys have discussed. Doctors don't agree on what treatment works best, because everyone is unique in the way their body handles the treatment.

Some use crutches, physical therapy, or analgesic drugs (pain killers that work on the peripheral and central nervous systems), but we all know no one is going to stay on pain killers forever.

Because my wife had such a bad case, 3rd phase, she had a hip fusion at 13 to minimize her pain and give her more mobility. As you are all aware, bone growth stops at different ages for boys and girls. Usually for girls their bone growth stops at about 15 and boys at 17. The other issue too with young children coming down with this terrible disease is that abnormal spinal curvatures are possible, because one leg becomes shorter than the other. My wife came down with scoliosis, because her left leg became shorter than the right, due to the lack of cartilage, which caused a LLD (leg-length discrepancy).

The fused hip prevented my wife from having children to a certain degree, as it would completely decrease her mobility at about half of her term and she would need to be put on bed rest. So at 29, she went through a total hip replacement (THR) at Emory in Atlanta. She went through a lot of PT as one can imagine. It is extremely rare for anyone that young to have a THR. Usually it does not happen until about 50+ years old.

Through my research I did not find any people who had gone through a THR, so it is interesting to know that my wife is one of the few, if only one, who had a total replacement, though I pretty certain there are others who have gone through it. The worst cases that are known have people going through partial hip replacements, where they just replace the head of the femur (ball), but not the actual socket (acetabulum), when they are both replaced, then that would be the total replacement.

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Disclaimer - I am not a medical doctor, what I post is just my "opinion" and opinions are a dime a dozen. If you suffer from any medical conditions, always speak to your physician. Don't ever disregard what your physician or your medical professional advises you based on what you read here. If you have a medical emergency, call your medical doctor right away or call 911. Anything you do, you do solely at your own risk.
 

gcc

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At the last visit to the orthopedic specialist my son was told that there has been no further deterioration of the cartilage and to expect the pain level to gradually decrease - come back in a year. I would love to believe that his pain will decrease because his quality of life is very poor. He is under the care of a pain management clinic that are actively trying different strategies including PT, medication, CBT, injections etc but nothing appears to be making a significant difference. We did get a second opinion which concurred on the idiopathic chondrolysis diagnosis and that there is really no treatment other than pain management.
It has been 20 months now that my son has been living in constant pain - does anyone have any experience of improvement after this long?
 

sirjames

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How did they know he did not have anymore necrosis of the articular cartilage? Did they do a MRI scan?

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gcc

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How did they know he did not have anymore necrosis of the articular cartilage? Did they do a MRI scan?

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Disclaimer - I am not a medical doctor, what I post is just my "opinion" and opinions are a dime a dozen. If you suffer from any medical conditions, always speak to your physician. Don't ever disregard what your physician or your medical professional advises you based on what you read here. If you have a medical emergency, call your medical doctor right away or call 911. Anything you do, you do solely at your own risk.
He has had a number of MRIs and the only thing that shows is the joint space narrowing until it is almost bone on bone.
 

sirjames

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He has had a number of MRIs and the only thing that shows is the joint space narrowing until it is almost bone on bone.

How old is your son? If he is around 11-16, they usually recommend a hip fusion through arthrodesis. This has been done in many cases and shows high success, if he is young, this might be something you may want to look into. He will be limited in his range of motion, but it is used to stop the pain. Later on in life after he has fully grown, then he could consider having a THR to improve his flexibility. This is exactly what my wife did with her ICH.

Just to be certain, did they did fully diagnosis him as having ICH? there is a lot of testing involved.

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Disclaimer - I am not a medical doctor, what I post is just my "opinion" and opinions are a dime a dozen. If you suffer from any medical conditions, always speak to your physician. Don't ever disregard what your physician or your medical professional advises you based on what you read here. If you have a medical emergency, call your medical doctor right away or call 911. Anything you do, you do solely at your own risk.
 

gcc

New Member
How old is your son? If he is around 11-16, they usually recommend a hip fusion through arthrodesis. This has been done in many cases and shows high success, if he is young, this might be something you may want to look into. He will be limited in his range of motion, but it is used to stop the pain. Later on in life after he has fully grown, then he could consider having a THR to improve his flexibility. This is exactly what my wife did with her ICH.

Just to be certain, did they did fully diagnosis him as having ICH? there is a lot of testing involved.

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Disclaimer - I am not a medical doctor, what I post is just my "opinion" and opinions are a dime a dozen. If you suffer from any medical conditions, always speak to your physician. Don't ever disregard what your physician or your medical professional advises you based on what you read here. If you have a medical emergency, call your medical doctor right away or call 911. Anything you do, you do solely at your own risk.


He will be 16 next month. We were told that ICH is a diagnosis of exclusion - meaning that there is nothing else that it could be. They have never talked about a hip fusion. I will do some more research.
 

sirjames

New Member
One of the first things they should of tested him for is tuberculous arthritis, as it mimics ICH and of course, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, but from what you described, it sounds exactly like ICH.

How old was he went it onset?

Yes, I definitely would recommend looking into a hip fusion, just so your son does not have to keep going through pain. The best thing is to find a specialist in your area who has worked with someone with ICH, they would be well versed in the disease, because in general few doctors will know about the condition, unless they look into the research that is available. The good thing is their is hope. :angel:

I have attached an article talking about arthrodesis for you, in someone who had ICH. My wife came down with ICH at 13 and had the hip fusion, and than a THR 29.
 

sirjames

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Sorry, I forgot to include the image. Here you are.

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Hi everyone,

My name is Ainslie, & I am 18 years old.

Two years ago, in my first year of college, I was diagnosed with Idiopathic Chondrolysis (ICH), in my right hip. Before the official diagnosis, I spent a total 6 weeks in 3 different hospitals. The onset of my pain was immediate, and I had no previous injury that could have triggered it. I live in Tasmania, Australia, and had to be transferred to a children's hospital on the mainland, as no hospital where I am from had ever treated a patient with ICH. Neither had the hospital on the mainland. I had limited mobility, was unable to move or weight bear on my right leg, and had to use crutches or a wheelchair to get around the hospital.

All the initial tests I had, were inconclusive, so I was actually sent home from the first hospital, after only 11 hours, even though I couldn't walk. I spent over a month in the second hospital, and was moved to 7 different rooms during my stay. The doctors were unable to diagnose me there, either, but some of the diagnoses they investigated, included tumors, blood clots, cancer, forms of arthritis, and even mental health issues. As they could not find any physical proof of a reason for my symptoms, the doctors suggested to my parents that I was extremely stressed and this was manifesting itself into physical symptoms.

I eventually underwent a capsulectomy, and release of the psoas tendon, in 2012. This helped for a few months.

For the next year, I had to have check-ups at the hospital every 2-3 months, which included MRIs, blood tests, x-rays, & even a bone scan.

Just over a year later, I was also diagnosed with Femeroacetabular Impingement (FAI) in both my left and right hips. FAI is a bone deformity, where the head of the femur, grows incorrectly, causing nodules to form, and disrupt the natural movement of the hip joint. My orthopaedic surgeon suggested to have surgery on both my hips, to try and shave off the nodules. I have also been assessed by the Rheumatology Department, regarding possible arthritis related symptoms, but all the investigations have failed to indicate this condition.

In my next trip to the hospital, a few months later, my latest MRI scan showed that I had barely any cartilage in my left hip, so it was almost bone on bone, & my right hip showed massive amounts of cartilage deterioration. He said that any further surgery to attempt to fix the current damage, would be pointless. My only option left, is to have both my hips replaced as soon as possible. It is unlikely that hospitals in Tasmania would support hip replacements in such a young person, and the hospital I was being treated would also be reluctant, as I am too old for their waiting list, as it is a children's hospital. I am now being transferred to the largest hospital complex in the Southern Hemisphere, and am currently waiting for a letter from them, to say that I can have my first hip replacement done.

I have been living in constant pain for 2 years. I have been on several different medications, on and off, with none of them being able to help subdue the pain. I am unable to drive a car at this point in time, as it hurts too much to do so. I have been able to walk without the use of crutches or a wheelchair, for over a year now, but will need to use them for a few months, after my hip replacements.

Since I was diagnosed, I have been looking for someone else who has ICH, to know that I am not alone in my suffering. There is no where in Australia that houses support groups for people & their families, who suffer form ICH. One day, I would like to meet someone in person, who has gone through what I have, because even though the pain can be really bad some days, it does get better. :)

Sorry if this is long or boring, but it has been 2 years, without having anyone to talk to, who understands this disease... so, thanks for listening :)
 

sirjames

New Member
Hi Ainslie,

First I just wanted to say, for someone who is just 18 years old, you really know how to express yourself extremely well and you are an excellent writer.

What you have experienced is extremely typical for someone who has ICH. Very few doctors are aware of this condition, as it is so extremely rare. As I stated above, there are only 130 cases documented in medical journals, which is out of 7.2B people in the world. Seeing that you are just 18 years old, a THR would not be a good option for you as your body is might not be completely done growing, usually women stop growing at around 18. However, due to hormones, it is possible you might still grow a little more and a good doctor will consider this possibility and delay the surgery. My wife's doctors would not allow her to have her THR until 29.

You should speak with your doctors and see what they would think about a hip fusion, due to your age. I have done a lot of research and from what you have described, you may be at the 3rd stage, which is where my wife was as well.

Hi everyone,

My name is Ainslie, & I am 18 years old.
Sorry if this is long or boring, but it has been 2 years, without having anyone to talk to, who understands this disease... so, thanks for listening :)
 

Etoyia Magee

New Member
My son has been diagnosed with idiopathic chondrolysis. Does anyone know anything about this disease?
Hi there. My daughter was recently diagnosed & we were devestated. She's been playing sports since she was 3. She's 16 now & they told her she'd never play contact sports again. We're not claiming that. Despite our forecast, she's in good spirits. Our family & community supports her which makes a huge difference. Fortunately we have a good team of doctors at Rush Hospital in Chicago where we live that are working hard to resolve her condition/symptoms. We have a long road ahead, but the goal is to have her walking normal & enjoying life as a normal teen ager should. I appreciate this forum because I know there will be dark days along the way. She's had the steroids, MRI, PT was too painful so we can't do that yet. But we're hopeful. We've been going through the motions for about 2 months. So if nothing seems to help, then surgery will be our next option. I'll keep you all posted & definitely in my prayers!!
 

runawaybunny

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Staff member
Welcome to our community @Etoyia Magee.

Your daughter is lucky to have your care and support and a good team of health care providers. With all of you caring for her she is in good hands.

I found a couple of other threads where members discussed idiopathic chondrolysis. In the first thread a member shared a link to an interesting study: Idiopathic Chondrolysis Treated With Etanercept

http://www.conductdisorders.com/community/threads/worried.41645/

http://www.conductdisorders.com/com...with-idiopathic-chondrolysis-new-posts.58547/

We also have an internet search available which only searches authoritative sites and databases cutting out all of the clutter found on other search engines. http://www.conductdisorders.com/community/pages/internet-search/

Hope some of that helps. By the way, we encourage our members to protect their privacy while using the internet so if the username you registered is your real name please go to account settings and change it to something not personally identifiable.
 
Hello @Etoyia Magee

I was diagnosed with ICH in my right hip, and later in my left hip, when I was 16, & was devastated when I was told that I would not be able to do some of the things that I love. 3 years on, I am pretty much back to normal, after having my right hip replaced this past February. Though the recovery process was pretty gruelling, it has paid off immensely :) Even my orthopaedic specialist says he is extremely impressed with my recovery!

I am walking every day, doing exercises, & I even joined a gym for the first time EVER! Things seemed like they were terrible when I first got the diagnosis, but they will definitely get better! :)

I wish your daughter the best of luck in her recovery!
 

SamP

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Hello,
I was searching about ICH online and found this forum. My daughter is just diagnosed with chondrolysis of hip after 10 months of lab testings, x-rays and bunch of MRIs. I hope someone can help me and tell me what will be treatment plan for this condition. Any kind of info will be helpful. How is your daughter @Etoyia Magee?

Hope to get some info!!!
 

pigless in VA

Well-Known Member
Welcome, SamP. It appears that foreveryoung and Etoyia Magee have not visited this forum since August 2105. I'm not sure that you will be able to discuss the treatment plan for your daughter with them. I see that runawaybunny posted some links above. I hope some of the information is helpful for you in your journey to find treatment for your daughter.
 

Iriana

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My son has been diagnosed with idiopathic chondrolysis. Does anyone know anything about this disease?
Hi, you posted this a couple of years ago and I am not a parent, I'm actually a patient.
When I was 15 I was diagnosed with idiopathic chondrolysis of the hip. I had grade 2 "arthritis" I guess is what you can call it and the set me up on a plan. I did physical therapy for about 5 months and my pain went away. I was able to continue cheerleading throughout the whole process because the doctors said it would be like extra PT. After I graduated high school I started working and was on my feet all the time, I was still in competitive cheerleading until 2 days after my 18 birthday I got into a car accident and ended up having a fracture in my hip. Ever since then it's been down hill from there. I'm now almost 20 and have a grade 4 arthritis in my hip. The only thing that has so far help me slightly manage the pain is swimming(being in water), or the tramadol that I am taking. I'm on crutches have been for about 9 months, can barely walk at all, no longer able to work or cheer, and honestly life has been a bit difficult. It's exhausting and painful to have to attend university and be in pain all the time. I have tried cortisone shots, PRP injection, Synvisc injection, stem cell placements and nothing so far. So now honestly my only option to take the pain away and for me to be able to live happily is if I do surgery I'm planning on having it during Christmas break for school purposes and stuff.
 

AliceJF

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Hi, you posted this a couple of years ago and I am not a parent, I'm actually a patient.
When I was 15 I was diagnosed with idiopathic chondrolysis of the hip. I had grade 2 "arthritis" I guess is what you can call it and the set me up on a plan. I did physical therapy for about 5 months and my pain went away. I was able to continue cheerleading throughout the whole process because the doctors said it would be like extra PT. After I graduated high school I started working and was on my feet all the time, I was still in competitive cheerleading until 2 days after my 18 birthday I got into a car accident and ended up having a fracture in my hip. Ever since then it's been down hill from there. I'm now almost 20 and have a grade 4 arthritis in my hip. The only thing that has so far help me slightly manage the pain is swimming(being in water), or the tramadol that I am taking. I'm on crutches have been for about 9 months, can barely walk at all, no longer able to work or cheer, and honestly life has been a bit difficult. It's exhausting and painful to have to attend university and be in pain all the time. I have tried cortisone shots, PRP injection, Synvisc injection, stem cell placements and nothing so far. So now honestly my only option to take the pain away and for me to be able to live happily is if I do surgery I'm planning on having it during Christmas break for school purposes and stuff.
 

AliceJF

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Hi. My 12 year old daughter was just diagnosed with ICH after a zillion other tests ruled everything else out. It has been a month that she cannot walk. She is using crutches and is in a fair amount of pain. Her school has no elevator. Doctors have no answers to her prognosis. Is this long term? Sounds like it is from what I've read. Trying to determine if I have to find a new school among other things.
How do you determine what stage of the disease your child has? She has fluid in her hip and cartilage damage that they say is not from infection. Fortunate to live in NYC with access to good care. No definitive answers though.
Anyone have conservative treatment help? How do they manage PT if they are in a great deal of pain?
Thank you for any and all thoughts!
 

Sharonchrissy

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I sure do. My daughter was diagnosed May 2011. She is doing great now ! I did extensive research and reached out to Doctor's all over the country. There is very little info and not many case studies. What kind of therapy does his Dr suggest ? My daughter was on a cpm machine 12 hours per day (usually at night) and had extensive physical therapy at our local children's hospital 3x per week. We also did PT at home 2x per day. Any ? I can answer I will be glad to. It is such a scary & trying time. Again my daughter is doing well. She did lose 10% of her range of motion permanently but it is hardly even noticable and does not effect her at all.
My daughter,age 11 is diagnosed with this disorder. Doctor has only suggested physical therapy and naproxen. Limited improvement. I live in the NY area. What is the name of your doctor?
 

Sharonchrissy

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My daughter, age 11 is diagnosed with hip chondrolysis. Orthopedic has only recommended physical therapy and naproxen. Limited improvement. Can anyone recommend a doctor in the NY area who deals with pediatric hip chondrolysis?
 
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