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My Uber Entitled Narcissistic Pathological Liar Son Just Turned 18, I Thought He Was Done Here?
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<blockquote data-quote="2much2recover" data-source="post: 649008" data-attributes="member: 18366"><p>This is the "DNA" connection - a biological reality that you can not do one thing to change. You are fighting nature vs nurture here and it is quite obvious that nature is winning. Which brings me to this: </p><p></p><p>It is only recently that I connected by daughters connection to DNA. Also, I was not a good disciplinarian. Probably because I saw physical abuse as a child by my maternal grandmother and I knew it was not normal because I didn't suffer this type of abuse from my parents. Probably determined early that I would never hurt my own child. So do the math and add up: only child + bad DNA + no discipline = disaster - in her case sociopath or some other mental illness with sociopath tendencies (she won't go to therapy because she sees nothing wrong with her behavior) Like yours - narcissistic, pathological liar, plus add charismatic, grandiose, controlling and manipulative.</p><p></p><p>You are doing the right thing in my opinion. I suffered for far too many years, beating myself up and putting all the guilt on myself, wondering what I, as a parent did wrong. In the end it is the equation above. The end result for me is that I live a peaceful life because I kicked the bullying daughter out of my life. At some time they have to grow up, and so do we in a way. We need to grow up and learn that all our efforts to change them need to be put in the past and release them (these bullying parasites ) away from us. I have a little saying I like to say about people I don't want to be around because of their (hurtful) behavior: There is room in the Universe for everyone; it might not be right next to me, but there is room in the world for everyone. (you don't have to live their life, you only have responsibility to live your own)</p><p>Release him to his destiny no matter where that leads him, for you have given your all and for a emotional vampire, there is never "enough" Only you can bring peace back into your own life and that of your family by letting go of the "monster". Trying to get him any more help or trying to get him to see the error of his ways his futile. At this point interacting with him does more harm than good, because emotionally it doesn't effect him (except open the door to more manipulation) and it repeatedly bring out the guilt, the anger, and the resentment in you. You did not break your son and you can not fix him. Only a martyr would continue to sacrifice their happiness for the mess your son has become.</p><p>Please read this article on detachment:</p><p><a href="http://www.conductdisorders.com/community/threads/article-on-detachment.53639/#axzz3RuNOm38m" target="_blank">http://www.conductdisorders.com/community/threads/article-on-detachment.53639/#axzz3RuNOm38m</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2much2recover, post: 649008, member: 18366"] This is the "DNA" connection - a biological reality that you can not do one thing to change. You are fighting nature vs nurture here and it is quite obvious that nature is winning. Which brings me to this: It is only recently that I connected by daughters connection to DNA. Also, I was not a good disciplinarian. Probably because I saw physical abuse as a child by my maternal grandmother and I knew it was not normal because I didn't suffer this type of abuse from my parents. Probably determined early that I would never hurt my own child. So do the math and add up: only child + bad DNA + no discipline = disaster - in her case sociopath or some other mental illness with sociopath tendencies (she won't go to therapy because she sees nothing wrong with her behavior) Like yours - narcissistic, pathological liar, plus add charismatic, grandiose, controlling and manipulative. You are doing the right thing in my opinion. I suffered for far too many years, beating myself up and putting all the guilt on myself, wondering what I, as a parent did wrong. In the end it is the equation above. The end result for me is that I live a peaceful life because I kicked the bullying daughter out of my life. At some time they have to grow up, and so do we in a way. We need to grow up and learn that all our efforts to change them need to be put in the past and release them (these bullying parasites ) away from us. I have a little saying I like to say about people I don't want to be around because of their (hurtful) behavior: There is room in the Universe for everyone; it might not be right next to me, but there is room in the world for everyone. (you don't have to live their life, you only have responsibility to live your own) Release him to his destiny no matter where that leads him, for you have given your all and for a emotional vampire, there is never "enough" Only you can bring peace back into your own life and that of your family by letting go of the "monster". Trying to get him any more help or trying to get him to see the error of his ways his futile. At this point interacting with him does more harm than good, because emotionally it doesn't effect him (except open the door to more manipulation) and it repeatedly bring out the guilt, the anger, and the resentment in you. You did not break your son and you can not fix him. Only a martyr would continue to sacrifice their happiness for the mess your son has become. Please read this article on detachment: [URL]http://www.conductdisorders.com/community/threads/article-on-detachment.53639/#axzz3RuNOm38m[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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