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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 578338" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Around here they have a class that is sort of like doing kdg again but not quite. It gives them a year to mature before going to first grade but it is a lot more stimulating mentally than doing the same thing over again. It is very common in our area for about 20% of the kids in kdg to end up in this class because they just are not ready to go to first grade where they have to sit and pay attention a lot more. It always seemed to me that it was the kids wth parents that didn't teach them how to behave well who ended up in this class and who truly NEEDED it. In the long run it was easier for kids to do this class than repeat a grade some later year.</p><p></p><p>I have no idea what test they are using. I do remember when husband's nephew was told he couldn't go to kdg yet because he wasn't smart enough. He missed ONE thing on some stupid test that the kids had to pass every question on to get in. They showed a picture of a tie and the kids were supposed to say that it represented Daddy. Nephew's dad is a heating/air guy. He didn't even wear a tie to his WEDDING and his child had never seen one on him. My sister in law had a fit and chewed them up one side and down the other because it was very biased and prejudiced and many of the kids this school thought were dumb (and they told parents to not expect their kids to go to college after missing one or two things on this test, who does that iwth kids going into kdg???) were kids with fathers who didn't wear ties and moms who didn't wear aprons. sister in law wears an apron to protect her clothes while she puts makeup on. If they had asked nephew what room you wear an apron in, he would have flunked that too. All they wanted was the kids to say that mom is represented by an apron, which is as wrong as the tie thing, in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>there are all kinds of reasons why a test score might or might not be valid, and with-o knowing what test was given, you can't really know what that score means. </p><p></p><p>She NEEDS the full workup very badly. What they are telling her parents is that she is not going to be successful in a first grade. This means she is identified as probably having special needs and they MUST test her before changing her placement from a regular class with her peers. How would they know how best to help her if they don't figure out what the problems are? Push Jamie and Billie to go for the full private neuropsychologist at the good doctor AND for a full IEP evaluation. Sit down with Jamie (on the phone is okay) and tell him exactly how to do it, incl sendin it certified. Let him know that these steps bring in legally binding protections for Haillie and will provide whatever help she needs to unlock the amazing potential of her future. I know hallie is a badly behaved child, but at her age that is her parents' faults, not hers. To be able to do some of the manpulations, she has to be very smart. If they cannot get the help she needs, sshe likely won't even know it, much less the rest of the world. STRESS to Jamie that he needs to take control over evaluations and things because Billie won't listen or follow through. This is way too important for his child's future for him to let Billie do it her own way and mess it up. There are not many right ways to get the evaluation done. There ispretty much one way, it is set by law and if you don't follow it or the school talks you out of it, your kid suffers. So he needs to follow through on this, with your help and guidance.</p><p></p><p>Don't set expectations too high. Neither of her parents are great at follow through, so to get all this done may take a lot of cheerleading and coaching on your part. And if they get Michael tested too? he has help BEFORE school gets so tough that he isn't coping or learning. If he has no problems, all the testing does is show how great he is. So that may be an angle to work things so that Jamie and/or Billie listens.</p><p></p><p>I hope this helps. if you find the test name, I can be of a lot more help with that score.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 578338, member: 1233"] Around here they have a class that is sort of like doing kdg again but not quite. It gives them a year to mature before going to first grade but it is a lot more stimulating mentally than doing the same thing over again. It is very common in our area for about 20% of the kids in kdg to end up in this class because they just are not ready to go to first grade where they have to sit and pay attention a lot more. It always seemed to me that it was the kids wth parents that didn't teach them how to behave well who ended up in this class and who truly NEEDED it. In the long run it was easier for kids to do this class than repeat a grade some later year. I have no idea what test they are using. I do remember when husband's nephew was told he couldn't go to kdg yet because he wasn't smart enough. He missed ONE thing on some stupid test that the kids had to pass every question on to get in. They showed a picture of a tie and the kids were supposed to say that it represented Daddy. Nephew's dad is a heating/air guy. He didn't even wear a tie to his WEDDING and his child had never seen one on him. My sister in law had a fit and chewed them up one side and down the other because it was very biased and prejudiced and many of the kids this school thought were dumb (and they told parents to not expect their kids to go to college after missing one or two things on this test, who does that iwth kids going into kdg???) were kids with fathers who didn't wear ties and moms who didn't wear aprons. sister in law wears an apron to protect her clothes while she puts makeup on. If they had asked nephew what room you wear an apron in, he would have flunked that too. All they wanted was the kids to say that mom is represented by an apron, which is as wrong as the tie thing, in my opinion. there are all kinds of reasons why a test score might or might not be valid, and with-o knowing what test was given, you can't really know what that score means. She NEEDS the full workup very badly. What they are telling her parents is that she is not going to be successful in a first grade. This means she is identified as probably having special needs and they MUST test her before changing her placement from a regular class with her peers. How would they know how best to help her if they don't figure out what the problems are? Push Jamie and Billie to go for the full private neuropsychologist at the good doctor AND for a full IEP evaluation. Sit down with Jamie (on the phone is okay) and tell him exactly how to do it, incl sendin it certified. Let him know that these steps bring in legally binding protections for Haillie and will provide whatever help she needs to unlock the amazing potential of her future. I know hallie is a badly behaved child, but at her age that is her parents' faults, not hers. To be able to do some of the manpulations, she has to be very smart. If they cannot get the help she needs, sshe likely won't even know it, much less the rest of the world. STRESS to Jamie that he needs to take control over evaluations and things because Billie won't listen or follow through. This is way too important for his child's future for him to let Billie do it her own way and mess it up. There are not many right ways to get the evaluation done. There ispretty much one way, it is set by law and if you don't follow it or the school talks you out of it, your kid suffers. So he needs to follow through on this, with your help and guidance. Don't set expectations too high. Neither of her parents are great at follow through, so to get all this done may take a lot of cheerleading and coaching on your part. And if they get Michael tested too? he has help BEFORE school gets so tough that he isn't coping or learning. If he has no problems, all the testing does is show how great he is. So that may be an angle to work things so that Jamie and/or Billie listens. I hope this helps. if you find the test name, I can be of a lot more help with that score. [/QUOTE]
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