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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 168907" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Mishka, you said, "We have had him screened for Autism and that has been definitely ruled out."</p><p>You then gave a long list of things that ALL fit with high-functioning autism, possibly even hyperlexia.</p><p></p><p>MWM is right - you need to keep an open mind on the possibility of autism, especially if he's only 3. It is so often missed, or misdiagnosed.</p><p></p><p>If he had/has no language delay then Asperger's is more likely to be on the cards than more conventional autism (at least as far as diagnosis goes in Australia!). Don't be misled by a sociable child who makes eye contact, either - it can happen. Autistic kids aren't necessarily socially withdrawn; socially inappropriate or inept is a better description. difficult child 3 would go up to a total stranger and tell them our family history.</p><p></p><p>An autistic girl (teen) said to me this evening (after eavesdropping on my conversation with her mother), "Were you talking to my mother about how fat you are?"</p><p>I replied that we had been talking about diets rather than about being fat. The girl then remembered lessons she'd been taught and realised she'd been inappropriate, and said, "I'm sorry I said that; but at least I didn't call you fat, I just asked if you had said it."</p><p></p><p>Which didn't really help much! But I know the girl was not trying to offend, she was just wanting to know. So I smiled and said, "We're all girls together in this room. If we want to share about being fat, or skinny, or on diets - we all understand because we're all friends."</p><p></p><p>That's what I mean about inappropriate. The girl was chatty with me but inappropriate. However, she was belatedly aware of this and tried to fix it. She really wanted to do the right thing. A good person at heart.</p><p></p><p>by the way, she was making good eye contact with me. difficult child 3 always has made good eye contact with people. difficult child 1 will make good eye contact with people one-on-one, but rarely with a group especially if he doesn't know them well.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes an autistic person avoids eye contact because what they see is too distracting and they are less able to concentrate on what the person is saying. It really does vary - I think difficult child 3 makes good eye contact when you're talking to him because it helps him understand what you're saying. Same with difficult child 1 - we always had to tap his shoulder to get his attention, and insist on eye contact if we had to say something important.</p><p></p><p>Autism is not necessarily bad news, especially high-functioning autism.</p><p></p><p>The lack of sleep thing - not good. It could be a factor in the raging. easy child 2/difficult child 2 took a while to learn how to sleep; she would rage and fight it and drive me crazy, often falling asleep sitting up in her cot, still wailing defiance. Her eyes would be shut, she would be swaying, then she'd fall over and when her head hit the pillow, she would wake and start crying all over again.</p><p></p><p>I have found I get better response from my kids when they get more sleep. difficult child 1 is fairly insomniac though. However, when he DOES sleep (same with the others) he does it thoroughly. He is out like a light, so relaxed his eyelids partly open. He's had people talking to him at various camps and sleepovers, thinking he was awake.</p><p></p><p>Something to consider - food sensitivity? Or a reaction to something in his diet. For example, we tried eliminating various suspect foods from the diet of both boys (did the rest of the family too, it was easier) and found they reacted to caffeine. Cola drinks and a lot of other things with guarana (aka caffeine) were a trigger for worse behaviour and rages.</p><p></p><p>You're worrying about ODD - from what we've seen, a lot of things get described as ODD but are in fact a follow-on to another overlying disorder. and trying to use conventional discipline or parenting techniques on these difficult child kids can trigger ODD-type behaviour. Changing your direction can reduce or even remove this ODD-type behaviour.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say that ODD itself doesn't exist. Just that a lot of things may look like ODD but can be managed by changing how you handle the child and listen to the child.</p><p></p><p>Read "Explosive Child" - see the thread at the top of this forum. See if it rings a bell with you.</p><p></p><p>Again, welcome. We can help.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 168907, member: 1991"] Mishka, you said, "We have had him screened for Autism and that has been definitely ruled out." You then gave a long list of things that ALL fit with high-functioning autism, possibly even hyperlexia. MWM is right - you need to keep an open mind on the possibility of autism, especially if he's only 3. It is so often missed, or misdiagnosed. If he had/has no language delay then Asperger's is more likely to be on the cards than more conventional autism (at least as far as diagnosis goes in Australia!). Don't be misled by a sociable child who makes eye contact, either - it can happen. Autistic kids aren't necessarily socially withdrawn; socially inappropriate or inept is a better description. difficult child 3 would go up to a total stranger and tell them our family history. An autistic girl (teen) said to me this evening (after eavesdropping on my conversation with her mother), "Were you talking to my mother about how fat you are?" I replied that we had been talking about diets rather than about being fat. The girl then remembered lessons she'd been taught and realised she'd been inappropriate, and said, "I'm sorry I said that; but at least I didn't call you fat, I just asked if you had said it." Which didn't really help much! But I know the girl was not trying to offend, she was just wanting to know. So I smiled and said, "We're all girls together in this room. If we want to share about being fat, or skinny, or on diets - we all understand because we're all friends." That's what I mean about inappropriate. The girl was chatty with me but inappropriate. However, she was belatedly aware of this and tried to fix it. She really wanted to do the right thing. A good person at heart. by the way, she was making good eye contact with me. difficult child 3 always has made good eye contact with people. difficult child 1 will make good eye contact with people one-on-one, but rarely with a group especially if he doesn't know them well. Sometimes an autistic person avoids eye contact because what they see is too distracting and they are less able to concentrate on what the person is saying. It really does vary - I think difficult child 3 makes good eye contact when you're talking to him because it helps him understand what you're saying. Same with difficult child 1 - we always had to tap his shoulder to get his attention, and insist on eye contact if we had to say something important. Autism is not necessarily bad news, especially high-functioning autism. The lack of sleep thing - not good. It could be a factor in the raging. easy child 2/difficult child 2 took a while to learn how to sleep; she would rage and fight it and drive me crazy, often falling asleep sitting up in her cot, still wailing defiance. Her eyes would be shut, she would be swaying, then she'd fall over and when her head hit the pillow, she would wake and start crying all over again. I have found I get better response from my kids when they get more sleep. difficult child 1 is fairly insomniac though. However, when he DOES sleep (same with the others) he does it thoroughly. He is out like a light, so relaxed his eyelids partly open. He's had people talking to him at various camps and sleepovers, thinking he was awake. Something to consider - food sensitivity? Or a reaction to something in his diet. For example, we tried eliminating various suspect foods from the diet of both boys (did the rest of the family too, it was easier) and found they reacted to caffeine. Cola drinks and a lot of other things with guarana (aka caffeine) were a trigger for worse behaviour and rages. You're worrying about ODD - from what we've seen, a lot of things get described as ODD but are in fact a follow-on to another overlying disorder. and trying to use conventional discipline or parenting techniques on these difficult child kids can trigger ODD-type behaviour. Changing your direction can reduce or even remove this ODD-type behaviour. That's not to say that ODD itself doesn't exist. Just that a lot of things may look like ODD but can be managed by changing how you handle the child and listen to the child. Read "Explosive Child" - see the thread at the top of this forum. See if it rings a bell with you. Again, welcome. We can help. Marg [/QUOTE]
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