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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 453186" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>diagnosis's can be useful. In many areas they open doors to various types of treatment and support that you just cannot get with-o the diagnosis. Your public school violated about every right your child has as far as equal treatment for the disabled. TX schools have a really BAD record for handling students with disabilities. At least I have yet to hear many parents of kids with problems who didn't face major battles - and many had to go to court and even after WINNING and ahving court orders for various things the schools fought or refused to provide them. It is one reason I flat out refused to move to TX when my husband had a job offer there about 7 yrs ago. </p><p></p><p>Many kids just cannot handle ssri's for the reasons your daughter cannot. My daughter, who is not autistic, was put on first prozac and then zoloft to help deal with ptsd problems in 3rd grade. They made her higher than a kite and very much out of touch with reality. She is 16 now and they do not create that reacting now. </p><p></p><p>My son has asperger's and was incredibly violent. Right after his diagnosis, I attended a support group for parents of children with aspergers. Most of us dealt with violence at one point or another, often because anxiety and frustration were so great and the child had no way to handle them. Some of the Aspies persevered on violence or violent images/weapons/etc.... Risperdal was a miracle for us. My son was very very dangerous for a long time and risperdal really helped in a HUGE way.</p><p></p><p>No medication is right for everyone. Many docs thought my son was bipolar, but he just isn't. IF they think your child is bipolar, PLEASE insist that they follow the medication protocol for treatment of bipolar disorder that is approved by the board that certifies psychiatrists. It drives me nuts but most psychiatrists want to start with ssri's to treat bipolar. Antidepressants, whether ssri or antoher kind, are known to CAUSE mood swings in people with bipolar. PROPER medication protocol is to start with 1 mood stabilizer, add a second if needed, and an atypical antipsychotic like risperdal or seroquel, and once the patient is stable, mood wise, on the right cocktail of these medications (it takes 4-6 weeks at the therapeutic level of mood stabilizers to know if they will stabilize the moods, which seems like an eternitiy when you are in the trenches!), if there are symptoms left medications like ssri's, etc... are added VERY SLOWLY to see if they help.</p><p></p><p>PLEASE read The Bipolar Child by Papalous if you think your child is possibly bipolar or has a mood disorder. Pay close attention to the medication section and insist that medications follow it. I have asked many psychiatrists why they don't want to use mood stabilizers first and I have NEVER gotten an answer. Most I have gotten is mumbling, usually I am told we will discuss it at the next appointment as our time is up. Then the haven't brought up bipolar as a diagnosis for my child so I never got an answer. I firmly believe, having known several pharmaceutical company reps, that it is largely because the drug co's push ssri's really ahrd as the fix for any/everything. So the docs hear so much about them that they start throwing them at everything. It is the only reason I can come up with that so many psychiatrists (ones i have known and ones other parents here and in real life have spoken about) try to not follow the medication protocol established by their profession and instead want to start with a medication class that so much research has shown will NOT help and will make things worse. (There even used to be a type of bipolar that is caused by ssri medications, though I forget which type it was in the DSM!). </p><p></p><p>I strongly recommend reading The Bipolar Child by Papalous and The Explosive Child by Ross Greene. Another excellent book is "What your Explosive Child is Trying to Tell You" - I cannot remember the author for the life of me!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 453186, member: 1233"] diagnosis's can be useful. In many areas they open doors to various types of treatment and support that you just cannot get with-o the diagnosis. Your public school violated about every right your child has as far as equal treatment for the disabled. TX schools have a really BAD record for handling students with disabilities. At least I have yet to hear many parents of kids with problems who didn't face major battles - and many had to go to court and even after WINNING and ahving court orders for various things the schools fought or refused to provide them. It is one reason I flat out refused to move to TX when my husband had a job offer there about 7 yrs ago. Many kids just cannot handle ssri's for the reasons your daughter cannot. My daughter, who is not autistic, was put on first prozac and then zoloft to help deal with ptsd problems in 3rd grade. They made her higher than a kite and very much out of touch with reality. She is 16 now and they do not create that reacting now. My son has asperger's and was incredibly violent. Right after his diagnosis, I attended a support group for parents of children with aspergers. Most of us dealt with violence at one point or another, often because anxiety and frustration were so great and the child had no way to handle them. Some of the Aspies persevered on violence or violent images/weapons/etc.... Risperdal was a miracle for us. My son was very very dangerous for a long time and risperdal really helped in a HUGE way. No medication is right for everyone. Many docs thought my son was bipolar, but he just isn't. IF they think your child is bipolar, PLEASE insist that they follow the medication protocol for treatment of bipolar disorder that is approved by the board that certifies psychiatrists. It drives me nuts but most psychiatrists want to start with ssri's to treat bipolar. Antidepressants, whether ssri or antoher kind, are known to CAUSE mood swings in people with bipolar. PROPER medication protocol is to start with 1 mood stabilizer, add a second if needed, and an atypical antipsychotic like risperdal or seroquel, and once the patient is stable, mood wise, on the right cocktail of these medications (it takes 4-6 weeks at the therapeutic level of mood stabilizers to know if they will stabilize the moods, which seems like an eternitiy when you are in the trenches!), if there are symptoms left medications like ssri's, etc... are added VERY SLOWLY to see if they help. PLEASE read The Bipolar Child by Papalous if you think your child is possibly bipolar or has a mood disorder. Pay close attention to the medication section and insist that medications follow it. I have asked many psychiatrists why they don't want to use mood stabilizers first and I have NEVER gotten an answer. Most I have gotten is mumbling, usually I am told we will discuss it at the next appointment as our time is up. Then the haven't brought up bipolar as a diagnosis for my child so I never got an answer. I firmly believe, having known several pharmaceutical company reps, that it is largely because the drug co's push ssri's really ahrd as the fix for any/everything. So the docs hear so much about them that they start throwing them at everything. It is the only reason I can come up with that so many psychiatrists (ones i have known and ones other parents here and in real life have spoken about) try to not follow the medication protocol established by their profession and instead want to start with a medication class that so much research has shown will NOT help and will make things worse. (There even used to be a type of bipolar that is caused by ssri medications, though I forget which type it was in the DSM!). I strongly recommend reading The Bipolar Child by Papalous and The Explosive Child by Ross Greene. Another excellent book is "What your Explosive Child is Trying to Tell You" - I cannot remember the author for the life of me! [/QUOTE]
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