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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 281536" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Your son has quite a few symptoms in common with my difficult child. Mine is NOT bipolar, but has Asperger's. ODD is just a few more letters to add to the diagnosis. It is pretty useless to treat the ODD if the child is not stable. Quite a few people here have seen ODD issues just disappear once the child is stabilized. </p><p></p><p>Read "The Bipolar Child" by Dmitri Papalous and his wife. They have the basic medication protocol described in the book. It really is important to start with mood stabilizers if they think he is bipolar. He may even need TWO mood stabilizers before he can handle any other medications. Many times atypical antipsychotics like riperdal are used with the mood stabilizers if the child is aggressive.</p><p></p><p>The talking to himself is something my own child did nonstop until he was about 8. He began talking when he opened his eyes (at the latest!) and stopped talking midword as he fell asleep. It drove us all nuts. Many nights I would wake up thinking I heard a noise and it was Wiz, fast asleep chattering to himself!</p><p></p><p>I know it is a blow to need the support and info you will find here. I hope you find lots of help, and that you feel free to ignore help that isn't right for your situation and family.</p><p></p><p>I do want to recommend 3 other books.</p><p></p><p>The Explosive Child by Ross Greene is a wonderful tool. Fairly easy to read and easy to implement. It can be adjusted to your family. There is another book by the same author that just came out and is supposed to be wonderful.</p><p></p><p>The Out Of Sync Child by Carol Kranowitz is not as easy to read, but has been invaluable for us. It is about Sensory Integration Disorder. Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) is when the brain can't properly handle the input from the senses. This book describes how to help by providing an appropriate sensory diet (regime of activities and sensory experiences to fit what the child needs). Often our kids already tell us what they need in sensory ways. It turns out my kid WAS trying to tell me something when he sat upside down on the couch. (LOL, but true).</p><p></p><p>You will need a private Occupational Therapist to see if your child has Sensory Integration Disorder (SID), and to help you set up the right therapies. Often the best therapy is brushing therapy and joint compression. You MUST be taught by an Occupational Therapist (OT) to do this. Once taught you can do it, but don't try on your own. Schools have Occupational Therapist (OT)'s, but they ONLY evaluate for how things affect academics. So a private evaluation is a must.</p><p></p><p>Kranowitz also has a book packed with activities and ways to do them on the cheap! It is called The Out of Sync Child has Fun.</p><p></p><p>Enough info to throw at you all at once! Welcome, and I hope to see you around!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 281536, member: 1233"] Your son has quite a few symptoms in common with my difficult child. Mine is NOT bipolar, but has Asperger's. ODD is just a few more letters to add to the diagnosis. It is pretty useless to treat the ODD if the child is not stable. Quite a few people here have seen ODD issues just disappear once the child is stabilized. Read "The Bipolar Child" by Dmitri Papalous and his wife. They have the basic medication protocol described in the book. It really is important to start with mood stabilizers if they think he is bipolar. He may even need TWO mood stabilizers before he can handle any other medications. Many times atypical antipsychotics like riperdal are used with the mood stabilizers if the child is aggressive. The talking to himself is something my own child did nonstop until he was about 8. He began talking when he opened his eyes (at the latest!) and stopped talking midword as he fell asleep. It drove us all nuts. Many nights I would wake up thinking I heard a noise and it was Wiz, fast asleep chattering to himself! I know it is a blow to need the support and info you will find here. I hope you find lots of help, and that you feel free to ignore help that isn't right for your situation and family. I do want to recommend 3 other books. The Explosive Child by Ross Greene is a wonderful tool. Fairly easy to read and easy to implement. It can be adjusted to your family. There is another book by the same author that just came out and is supposed to be wonderful. The Out Of Sync Child by Carol Kranowitz is not as easy to read, but has been invaluable for us. It is about Sensory Integration Disorder. Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) is when the brain can't properly handle the input from the senses. This book describes how to help by providing an appropriate sensory diet (regime of activities and sensory experiences to fit what the child needs). Often our kids already tell us what they need in sensory ways. It turns out my kid WAS trying to tell me something when he sat upside down on the couch. (LOL, but true). You will need a private Occupational Therapist to see if your child has Sensory Integration Disorder (SID), and to help you set up the right therapies. Often the best therapy is brushing therapy and joint compression. You MUST be taught by an Occupational Therapist (OT) to do this. Once taught you can do it, but don't try on your own. Schools have Occupational Therapist (OT)'s, but they ONLY evaluate for how things affect academics. So a private evaluation is a must. Kranowitz also has a book packed with activities and ways to do them on the cheap! It is called The Out of Sync Child has Fun. Enough info to throw at you all at once! Welcome, and I hope to see you around! [/QUOTE]
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