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NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) vs Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) vs AS
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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 458301" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I think a lot of people, especially psychiatrists, have very little understanding of the very different ways that these disorders can present. We got lucky in that our first psychiatrist and then the dev pediatrician (certified as both a dev pediatrician and a child psychiatrist) both seemed to grasp that Aspergers was the right way to go with Wiz.</p><p></p><p>I know that usually adhd is listed as a separate diagnosis, but in reality it is more a symptom of a different diagnosis. I know for a LONG time it was listed as a possible symptom of Aspergers. The psychiatrist explained that it is listed separately as a diagnosis as a way to get ins co's to cough up $$ for treatment more easily. </p><p></p><p>Wiz had awesome eye contact - when it was his idea. That boy could stare down anyone, anytime and saw nothing wrong with trying to do so to make adults incredibly uncomfortable. the first psychiatrist we had thought it was quite interesting - and in his case the <strong>overuse</strong> and <strong>inappropriate</strong> eye contact was a symptom of his Aspergers. I think most of the docs expect no eye contact when actually it would be more accurate to list inappropriate eye contact as a symptom. </p><p></p><p>NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) is in the same category as dyslexia, dysgraphia, etc.... Wiz has it - and it causes big problems sometimes. Not so much now as he has learned to imitate what others are doing if he doesn't understand and feels the need to fit in. That need is RARE, and he is super contrary if ANYONE tries to push him into doing something. It is one thing that has kept him far away from drugs, in my opinion. I know some of his friends tried to push him to try it, and he refused partly because he knows it would hurt him in many ways and at least as much due to the fact that he won't do anything you try to push or bully him into doing. Just won't. </p><p></p><p>I would look to the DSM for guidelines to help you line out what is aspergers, Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified, and some of the literature out there as to what NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) is. in my opinion NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) is likely a symptom of many disorders, like Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified, aspergers, autism, but can also be a symptom of other things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 458301, member: 1233"] I think a lot of people, especially psychiatrists, have very little understanding of the very different ways that these disorders can present. We got lucky in that our first psychiatrist and then the dev pediatrician (certified as both a dev pediatrician and a child psychiatrist) both seemed to grasp that Aspergers was the right way to go with Wiz. I know that usually adhd is listed as a separate diagnosis, but in reality it is more a symptom of a different diagnosis. I know for a LONG time it was listed as a possible symptom of Aspergers. The psychiatrist explained that it is listed separately as a diagnosis as a way to get ins co's to cough up $$ for treatment more easily. Wiz had awesome eye contact - when it was his idea. That boy could stare down anyone, anytime and saw nothing wrong with trying to do so to make adults incredibly uncomfortable. the first psychiatrist we had thought it was quite interesting - and in his case the [B]overuse[/B] and [B]inappropriate[/B] eye contact was a symptom of his Aspergers. I think most of the docs expect no eye contact when actually it would be more accurate to list inappropriate eye contact as a symptom. NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) is in the same category as dyslexia, dysgraphia, etc.... Wiz has it - and it causes big problems sometimes. Not so much now as he has learned to imitate what others are doing if he doesn't understand and feels the need to fit in. That need is RARE, and he is super contrary if ANYONE tries to push him into doing something. It is one thing that has kept him far away from drugs, in my opinion. I know some of his friends tried to push him to try it, and he refused partly because he knows it would hurt him in many ways and at least as much due to the fact that he won't do anything you try to push or bully him into doing. Just won't. I would look to the DSM for guidelines to help you line out what is aspergers, Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified, and some of the literature out there as to what NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) is. in my opinion NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) is likely a symptom of many disorders, like Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified, aspergers, autism, but can also be a symptom of other things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS). [/QUOTE]
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