I am 59 and stay out of my children's marrriages and relationships. When I would listen to friends and relatives talk about not getting along with their kid's significant others I had always thought to my self (smugly), what is the problem just stay out of their business. Well it came back and bit me in the a**! I can already tell you that there is NOTHING that difficult child's girlie could ever say (as if she would anyway) to make me even want to have a relationship with her. They have been together 2 years and if they had children I know that I would never see them and she would poison them against me, and sometimes even difficult child! It is a toxic relationship and telling him what I see (and everyone else) will not influence him at all. I admire everyone that has the same problem and can MYOB. difficult child was childhood friends with our neighbor's son and daughter, and dated the daughter briefly in high school. He told me that it felt like dating a sister lol so they have always remained friends. He has another female that he has remained friends with over the years, she was a difficult child in high school with him and turned her life around (so their is hope). The 2 ladies are hard working and have good jobs, they were a positive force in my difficult child's life and girlie couldn't stand it. difficult child told me last week that none of his friends will speak to him because they don't like girlie. Of course he didn't tell my WHY they don't like her, and he did blame it on girlie and did not take responsibility for his part at all. Both ladies told me recently that they have lost touch with him because girlie found their numbers on difficult child's phone and called and threatened them. Girlie lied and told him THEY called her and he believed girlie! MY idiotic difficult child actually was mad at them and told them to leave girlie alone! I said to him I don't like her either she is a controlling b**** and she lies. I really should have kept my mouth shut! That was mean and I could have let him know that I DESPISE her in a calmer manner.