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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 529822" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>It sounds like you have some very valid fears. It also sounds as though it is not safe to have her spend any time unsupervised anywhere, and this is an impossible thing to manage in a home - even if the difficult child is an only child and both parents are home 24/7. It just cannot be done. </p><p></p><p>Do you know what the options are if you refuse to take her home from the psychiatric hospital if she does not go to Residential Treatment Center (RTC)? Can you find a phone number for the hs principal or counselor or whomever and call them over the weekend to find out WTH??? is going on that they cannot even return your call but can leave panicky voicemail. You need that info before you make any decisions. </p><p></p><p>I would look to see what would happen and what placements are available. I would also talk to my ins agent to find out if I have enough insurance coverage. NONE of the other chldren wuold be allowed in the home if difficult child was there and an adult was not. NONE of them, for their own safety. </p><p></p><p>You must sit down and prepare a WRITTEN safety plan to take this new threat into place. You need to have some family fire drills after you plan them out. Who does what, when, where everyone goes if there is a fire, etc... this site will help you create a fire drill plan: <a href="http://www.firesafetycouncil.com/english/home_escape_plan.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.firesafetycouncil.com/english/home_escape_plan.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>You must make each person in the home aware of how to get out of every single room - 2 ways. If anyone will need help getting out, figure out who will help them and practice that. </p><p></p><p>Go and make sure that you have fire extinguishers. One for the kitchen, the garage, the living room, the bedrooms (NOT difficult child's bedroom as it will be seen as permission to play with fire) and anywhere that might have a likelihood of a fire starting or of difficult child starting or hiding a fire in that room. </p><p></p><p>get rid of all candles, lock up all lighters and if possible lock up the grill. </p><p></p><p>Contact the local fire dept to get some help and advice with how best to handle this. Make sure they know that this is a young woman with multiple problems including a lack of conscience, so you must prepare for the unthinkable as much as possible. Ask NOW if families are charges when fire depts are called out. Some communities do this if you live outside a certain area or depending on the budget. You must NEVER let a possible bill keep you from calling the fire dept. but you CAN see about minimizing that cost by paying an annual fee (some areas offer this) and you can also find out what you can do to help get your ins co to fully cover any fire.</p><p></p><p>Make sure you have enough smoke and CO2 detectors and that they ALL have fresh batteries. I have always had the habit of checking them on Halloween and Easter - roughly 6 mos apart - but you need to check more often to make sure that difficult child has not disabled them.</p><p></p><p>Be sure to check your laws regarding when a 17yo can refuse treatment, your legal rights, if you will be charged if you refuse to pick her up from the psychiatric hospital because it is too dangerous to have her at home with the famly. I would speak to an atty regarding your rights and the consequences of refusing to take her home. </p><p></p><p>I am sorry this is happening. be very careful to take care of yourself!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 529822, member: 1233"] It sounds like you have some very valid fears. It also sounds as though it is not safe to have her spend any time unsupervised anywhere, and this is an impossible thing to manage in a home - even if the difficult child is an only child and both parents are home 24/7. It just cannot be done. Do you know what the options are if you refuse to take her home from the psychiatric hospital if she does not go to Residential Treatment Center (RTC)? Can you find a phone number for the hs principal or counselor or whomever and call them over the weekend to find out WTH??? is going on that they cannot even return your call but can leave panicky voicemail. You need that info before you make any decisions. I would look to see what would happen and what placements are available. I would also talk to my ins agent to find out if I have enough insurance coverage. NONE of the other chldren wuold be allowed in the home if difficult child was there and an adult was not. NONE of them, for their own safety. You must sit down and prepare a WRITTEN safety plan to take this new threat into place. You need to have some family fire drills after you plan them out. Who does what, when, where everyone goes if there is a fire, etc... this site will help you create a fire drill plan: [url]http://www.firesafetycouncil.com/english/home_escape_plan.pdf[/url] You must make each person in the home aware of how to get out of every single room - 2 ways. If anyone will need help getting out, figure out who will help them and practice that. Go and make sure that you have fire extinguishers. One for the kitchen, the garage, the living room, the bedrooms (NOT difficult child's bedroom as it will be seen as permission to play with fire) and anywhere that might have a likelihood of a fire starting or of difficult child starting or hiding a fire in that room. get rid of all candles, lock up all lighters and if possible lock up the grill. Contact the local fire dept to get some help and advice with how best to handle this. Make sure they know that this is a young woman with multiple problems including a lack of conscience, so you must prepare for the unthinkable as much as possible. Ask NOW if families are charges when fire depts are called out. Some communities do this if you live outside a certain area or depending on the budget. You must NEVER let a possible bill keep you from calling the fire dept. but you CAN see about minimizing that cost by paying an annual fee (some areas offer this) and you can also find out what you can do to help get your ins co to fully cover any fire. Make sure you have enough smoke and CO2 detectors and that they ALL have fresh batteries. I have always had the habit of checking them on Halloween and Easter - roughly 6 mos apart - but you need to check more often to make sure that difficult child has not disabled them. Be sure to check your laws regarding when a 17yo can refuse treatment, your legal rights, if you will be charged if you refuse to pick her up from the psychiatric hospital because it is too dangerous to have her at home with the famly. I would speak to an atty regarding your rights and the consequences of refusing to take her home. I am sorry this is happening. be very careful to take care of yourself! [/QUOTE]
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