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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 355287" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>When the instructor doesn't show, no one goes because there is no one to supervise. Which is why those sick days would need to be made up.</p><p></p><p>As for the 12 hr back to back clinical schedule, it's not a state requirement. The 2 day a week for 6 hrs a day does meet the state requirement. So there isn't any problem that way. The 12 hour day is an experiment of instructor M. This is the first time she's tried it. Usually she does 1 12 hr day a week. (a friday so you had the weekend to study) Because I'd told her one day a week is not enough to feel comfortable in the hospital setting last quarter. (and really it isn't)</p><p></p><p>And yeah, I know we'll be working 12 hr days when we're done and graduated. But during those 12 hr days I won't be expected to come home and put in another 5-6 hrs of studying.</p><p></p><p>We get in more time to do the IV therapy simply because the hospital here lets students practice it in other depts. This gives us more opportunity to practice. The hospital in cincy stopped it because their patient satisfaction stats were going down. (they take students from several schools) But we're always supervised.</p><p></p><p>As for what we're allowed to do in clinicals per passing medications and treatments and such? Instructor D really did nothing wrong. RN students pass medications during their 2nd quarter, more than 2 quarters before they ever have their 1st pharm class!!! (I still can't believe that but I know it's true as easy child did) We're 3/4 the way finished with ours! And the instructor was always right there watching over us. But yeah, ok, if M doesn't want it that way......I can live with it. But it doesn't mean I have to like it. All we get to pass this quarter is as needed medications (basically insulin) and that's it. Next quarter <strong>we'll each get maybe 2 days</strong> where we get to pass all other medications because there is so many of us and only 1 instructor M. Sorry, but I'd like more than 2 days experience of passing medications before I given them to patients as a job. Instructor D was attempting to give us more experience so we'd learn more. And in just 2 wks with her we learned more than we did in 2 quarters with M.</p><p></p><p>And I've got no issues giving baths and making beds. I'm no snob who's going to expect my aides to do all the dirty work. But I've done that for 2 quarters and would like to learn something new that I need to know. Next quarter we go back to the darn nursing home. I'm dreading it because there won't be hardly any treatment procedures to do there so we'll not get any more practice. It takes maybe a half hour to get your patients bathed and their bed changed, if you're slow. (I'm not) Then we stand around or help our aides all day for something to do cuz we aren't allowed to do squat. Even in a hospital setting, on 1 floor there is only going to be so many catheters and such you can do and when you divide that by 6 students.........yeah.</p><p></p><p>I like instructor M alot, she's a good instructor. But she got her nose out of joint when D let us pass medications because she doesn't do it that way. And she didn't like it that D told her she'd be discussing the medication issue with the Director next week. So yeah, basically politics. Who's gonna boss what.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 355287, member: 84"] When the instructor doesn't show, no one goes because there is no one to supervise. Which is why those sick days would need to be made up. As for the 12 hr back to back clinical schedule, it's not a state requirement. The 2 day a week for 6 hrs a day does meet the state requirement. So there isn't any problem that way. The 12 hour day is an experiment of instructor M. This is the first time she's tried it. Usually she does 1 12 hr day a week. (a friday so you had the weekend to study) Because I'd told her one day a week is not enough to feel comfortable in the hospital setting last quarter. (and really it isn't) And yeah, I know we'll be working 12 hr days when we're done and graduated. But during those 12 hr days I won't be expected to come home and put in another 5-6 hrs of studying. We get in more time to do the IV therapy simply because the hospital here lets students practice it in other depts. This gives us more opportunity to practice. The hospital in cincy stopped it because their patient satisfaction stats were going down. (they take students from several schools) But we're always supervised. As for what we're allowed to do in clinicals per passing medications and treatments and such? Instructor D really did nothing wrong. RN students pass medications during their 2nd quarter, more than 2 quarters before they ever have their 1st pharm class!!! (I still can't believe that but I know it's true as easy child did) We're 3/4 the way finished with ours! And the instructor was always right there watching over us. But yeah, ok, if M doesn't want it that way......I can live with it. But it doesn't mean I have to like it. All we get to pass this quarter is as needed medications (basically insulin) and that's it. Next quarter [B]we'll each get maybe 2 days[/B] where we get to pass all other medications because there is so many of us and only 1 instructor M. Sorry, but I'd like more than 2 days experience of passing medications before I given them to patients as a job. Instructor D was attempting to give us more experience so we'd learn more. And in just 2 wks with her we learned more than we did in 2 quarters with M. And I've got no issues giving baths and making beds. I'm no snob who's going to expect my aides to do all the dirty work. But I've done that for 2 quarters and would like to learn something new that I need to know. Next quarter we go back to the darn nursing home. I'm dreading it because there won't be hardly any treatment procedures to do there so we'll not get any more practice. It takes maybe a half hour to get your patients bathed and their bed changed, if you're slow. (I'm not) Then we stand around or help our aides all day for something to do cuz we aren't allowed to do squat. Even in a hospital setting, on 1 floor there is only going to be so many catheters and such you can do and when you divide that by 6 students.........yeah. I like instructor M alot, she's a good instructor. But she got her nose out of joint when D let us pass medications because she doesn't do it that way. And she didn't like it that D told her she'd be discussing the medication issue with the Director next week. So yeah, basically politics. Who's gonna boss what. [/QUOTE]
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