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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 513121" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>No, because if he had misbehaved and gotten higher sanctions and refused to do his 'treatment' in the Department of Juvenile Justice facility, the longest they are able to keep a kid incarcerated is 3 years unless it's manslaughter or murder. Then after 3 years, he would still be on parole. They can keep them on parole until they are 21. Now, there was something I read in the guidelines for sentencing once, that Department of Juvenile Justice has adopted and it's law that they sentence IAW with these guidelines, that says a kid can opt to do his max stay and then come out without parole but I'll have to read that again and see if that means the 3 years or the max of the length of stay he was given. He was given 15 to 21 months, I think. They are maxing him out on that even though he did what he had to do in order to get approval for release in Feb. May will be 21 mos. But none of that matters if this state's Department of Juvenile Justice doesn't care about conforming to the law, no one in the state will do anything about it, and fed doj won't step in because it's state law. But, I'm trying to get fed doj to step in on the basis that these state laws are our citizens' ways of making sure our fed constitutional rights are upheld. OUr Department of Juvenile Justice system is so behind the times it's pathetic. But most citizens in this state don't care so it's never something the politicians/legislators seem to spend much time on- as far as accountability for the Department of Juvenile Justice system. difficult child says he's never heard of any kid coming out of Department of Juvenile Justice without being on parole and honestly, he gives me more accurate info about the system than attnys or POs. Remeber how they swore to me difficult child would only be in less than a year this time? But, I could recheck those guidelines and request a copy of the court order to this commitment to see if it requires parole. The judge said it verbally in court but sometimes that doesn't always get written in the court order and nobody remembers what a judge says (except the parties) a couple of years later. </p><p></p><p>What is so frustrating is all the well-intentioned funding from fed gov and well-intentioned laws that could be so helpful if they came to fruitation as they were intended but ITRW, you get people who don't care and use that stuff to play power trips instead of really trying to help a kid succeed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 513121, member: 3699"] No, because if he had misbehaved and gotten higher sanctions and refused to do his 'treatment' in the Department of Juvenile Justice facility, the longest they are able to keep a kid incarcerated is 3 years unless it's manslaughter or murder. Then after 3 years, he would still be on parole. They can keep them on parole until they are 21. Now, there was something I read in the guidelines for sentencing once, that Department of Juvenile Justice has adopted and it's law that they sentence IAW with these guidelines, that says a kid can opt to do his max stay and then come out without parole but I'll have to read that again and see if that means the 3 years or the max of the length of stay he was given. He was given 15 to 21 months, I think. They are maxing him out on that even though he did what he had to do in order to get approval for release in Feb. May will be 21 mos. But none of that matters if this state's Department of Juvenile Justice doesn't care about conforming to the law, no one in the state will do anything about it, and fed doj won't step in because it's state law. But, I'm trying to get fed doj to step in on the basis that these state laws are our citizens' ways of making sure our fed constitutional rights are upheld. OUr Department of Juvenile Justice system is so behind the times it's pathetic. But most citizens in this state don't care so it's never something the politicians/legislators seem to spend much time on- as far as accountability for the Department of Juvenile Justice system. difficult child says he's never heard of any kid coming out of Department of Juvenile Justice without being on parole and honestly, he gives me more accurate info about the system than attnys or POs. Remeber how they swore to me difficult child would only be in less than a year this time? But, I could recheck those guidelines and request a copy of the court order to this commitment to see if it requires parole. The judge said it verbally in court but sometimes that doesn't always get written in the court order and nobody remembers what a judge says (except the parties) a couple of years later. What is so frustrating is all the well-intentioned funding from fed gov and well-intentioned laws that could be so helpful if they came to fruitation as they were intended but ITRW, you get people who don't care and use that stuff to play power trips instead of really trying to help a kid succeed. [/QUOTE]
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