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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 281285" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>We're still at the "let's try tasers out" stage here in Australia. They've been presented to us as an alternative to cops using guns. We've had a few cases of mentally ill people brandishing knives, who got shot & killed by cops who didn't have any other way of stopping them (like, why not shoot them in the legs, guys?)</p><p></p><p>When a taser gets used in Australia, it's news here. But I can see this happening here too.</p><p></p><p>I think it's too difficult to judge, there is more to this story. </p><p></p><p>A child being tasered - children (depending on their age) are less capable of self-control than an adult. A child behaving like this woman did - I would be uncomforable with the tasering, because the child would need a bit more leeway in my mind, in order to realise what was about to happen and be given a chance to comply.</p><p></p><p>I suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye. Why was the woman pulled over? Was it for going a smidgin over the speed limit, or a huge amount? Was she driving erratically or dangerously? Did she sideswipe anyone? Or was she, in her mind, donig absolutely nothing wrong? Was the cop having a bad day? Or was he having a typical day?</p><p></p><p>The debrief would have been interesting...</p><p></p><p>I don't know enough about your laws around this sort of thing to fully understand what the options were. Our cops don't react like this, we usually aren't asked to get out of the car. A ticket is usually mailed to us. We are legally required to comply with reasonable instructions given to us by police. So for us if the police ask us to get out of the car, we are supposed to do so without arguing about it. That alone could incur another charge in Australia. Although the cops don't usually take advantage of this unless they're really feeling narky.</p><p></p><p>I suspect in Oz, she wouldn't have got taserd for this (although technically could have) but instead would have been buried under an avalanche of more traffic tickets, endung up withy a "show cause" as to why she should be allowed to continue driving on an unrestricted licence. mother in law has just voluntarily chosen a restricted licence (driving permitted close to home only) because she had reached the age of mandatory annual testing and she really isn't a safe enough driver any more.</p><p></p><p>Whether you get the taser or some other more subtle retaliation, one important rule from this - never annoy the cops!</p><p></p><p>But she isn't a child. Her size isn't the issue here, so much as her attitude. If as you say there were oter methods he could have used instead - then I agree, he should have. As I said, I don't know how your system works. But from what I heard, she was asking for trouble of some sort.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 281285, member: 1991"] We're still at the "let's try tasers out" stage here in Australia. They've been presented to us as an alternative to cops using guns. We've had a few cases of mentally ill people brandishing knives, who got shot & killed by cops who didn't have any other way of stopping them (like, why not shoot them in the legs, guys?) When a taser gets used in Australia, it's news here. But I can see this happening here too. I think it's too difficult to judge, there is more to this story. A child being tasered - children (depending on their age) are less capable of self-control than an adult. A child behaving like this woman did - I would be uncomforable with the tasering, because the child would need a bit more leeway in my mind, in order to realise what was about to happen and be given a chance to comply. I suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye. Why was the woman pulled over? Was it for going a smidgin over the speed limit, or a huge amount? Was she driving erratically or dangerously? Did she sideswipe anyone? Or was she, in her mind, donig absolutely nothing wrong? Was the cop having a bad day? Or was he having a typical day? The debrief would have been interesting... I don't know enough about your laws around this sort of thing to fully understand what the options were. Our cops don't react like this, we usually aren't asked to get out of the car. A ticket is usually mailed to us. We are legally required to comply with reasonable instructions given to us by police. So for us if the police ask us to get out of the car, we are supposed to do so without arguing about it. That alone could incur another charge in Australia. Although the cops don't usually take advantage of this unless they're really feeling narky. I suspect in Oz, she wouldn't have got taserd for this (although technically could have) but instead would have been buried under an avalanche of more traffic tickets, endung up withy a "show cause" as to why she should be allowed to continue driving on an unrestricted licence. mother in law has just voluntarily chosen a restricted licence (driving permitted close to home only) because she had reached the age of mandatory annual testing and she really isn't a safe enough driver any more. Whether you get the taser or some other more subtle retaliation, one important rule from this - never annoy the cops! But she isn't a child. Her size isn't the issue here, so much as her attitude. If as you say there were oter methods he could have used instead - then I agree, he should have. As I said, I don't know how your system works. But from what I heard, she was asking for trouble of some sort. Marg [/QUOTE]
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