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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 184510" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Not to be argumentative, but ODD rarely stands alone (check Dr. chandler's Chandler Papers) and CD is usually caused by untreated mental illness. I would be leery of an ODD diagnosis. They really aren't helpful...and usually can be traced to an underlying problem causing them. So, even though some may disagree, I'm going to stand by what I said. Lord knows, between myself, my son, and my daughter who used to do drugs...I've had a lot of experience <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I'm sure I could have met ODD standards as a kid. If my mom said, "Clean your room" I'd cross my arms and say, "Make me." And the more she pushed it, the more I'd resist. And if she REALLY didn't back down I'd lose control and rage with the best of them.</p><p> But the real problem was a simmering mood disorder. Once that was treated the urge to be contrary pretty much disappeared. I suggest looking into other things before accepting ODD or CD (CD is especially "iffy" in a child under 18). JMO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 184510, member: 1550"] Not to be argumentative, but ODD rarely stands alone (check Dr. chandler's Chandler Papers) and CD is usually caused by untreated mental illness. I would be leery of an ODD diagnosis. They really aren't helpful...and usually can be traced to an underlying problem causing them. So, even though some may disagree, I'm going to stand by what I said. Lord knows, between myself, my son, and my daughter who used to do drugs...I've had a lot of experience :) I'm sure I could have met ODD standards as a kid. If my mom said, "Clean your room" I'd cross my arms and say, "Make me." And the more she pushed it, the more I'd resist. And if she REALLY didn't back down I'd lose control and rage with the best of them. But the real problem was a simmering mood disorder. Once that was treated the urge to be contrary pretty much disappeared. I suggest looking into other things before accepting ODD or CD (CD is especially "iffy" in a child under 18). JMO [/QUOTE]
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