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<blockquote data-quote="nerfherder" data-source="post: 583984" data-attributes="member: 15907"><p>Another view:</p><p></p><p>I already am affiliated with a less conventional philosophical school (call it "Left Hand Path Neoplatonic School of Thought") but have always been fascinated with others' tales of their religious practices. I understand the power and inner drive of having a School or Religion that has caused such an amazing transformation inside that you can't help but want others to know so they can taste of it if they wish.</p><p></p><p>And I will also say that I did get something positive out of a couple of LDS missionaries a few years back. Mom had heard about the "post-mortem conversions" of people who were murdered in the Concentration Camps, and like many it outraged her. I had a thought and while the two young men were at the door, I asked them in Mom's presence about this practice. It turns out what they are doing is having someone stand in proxy for these individuals, and subjectively (which is to say, in their own Mormon Subjective Universe - or in their imagination, if you will) offer these now-dead spirits the chance to explore the LDS universe and switch over to it if they like what they see.</p><p></p><p>So, like I said to Mom, "They're not converting your parents, they're pretty much doing what these boys are doing here - knocking on their heavenly doors and asking if they want to hear about it. Bubbie and Zaydie are free to slam the heavenly doors in their faces if they want." OK, I said it to her in Yiddish which sounds a lot more amusing, but it at least taught my mom that what she thought was one thing was essentially harmless to her - very much alive in her heart - mom and dad.</p><p></p><p>Also when on long drives at night, I like to find and tune in to religious radio stations for those late night sermons. The strangest one, I think, was a Korean pastor who learned English in Scotland railing against the Harry Potter books. The surreal nature of it was that this was around 1 or 2 in the morning, and his English was in an accent there is no way I could ever duplicate. Delightful to listen to, whether or not I agreed with his ideas.</p><p></p><p>If someone comes to my door (unlikely now, as our door is on the other side of the farm driveway gate just off a dirt road) and they are educated in their religious practice and willing and able to have intelligent conversation, AND I have time to listen and discuss, I enjoy it thoroughly. But I never feel obligated to take part in this, as it's my property and my time they want to intrude upon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nerfherder, post: 583984, member: 15907"] Another view: I already am affiliated with a less conventional philosophical school (call it "Left Hand Path Neoplatonic School of Thought") but have always been fascinated with others' tales of their religious practices. I understand the power and inner drive of having a School or Religion that has caused such an amazing transformation inside that you can't help but want others to know so they can taste of it if they wish. And I will also say that I did get something positive out of a couple of LDS missionaries a few years back. Mom had heard about the "post-mortem conversions" of people who were murdered in the Concentration Camps, and like many it outraged her. I had a thought and while the two young men were at the door, I asked them in Mom's presence about this practice. It turns out what they are doing is having someone stand in proxy for these individuals, and subjectively (which is to say, in their own Mormon Subjective Universe - or in their imagination, if you will) offer these now-dead spirits the chance to explore the LDS universe and switch over to it if they like what they see. So, like I said to Mom, "They're not converting your parents, they're pretty much doing what these boys are doing here - knocking on their heavenly doors and asking if they want to hear about it. Bubbie and Zaydie are free to slam the heavenly doors in their faces if they want." OK, I said it to her in Yiddish which sounds a lot more amusing, but it at least taught my mom that what she thought was one thing was essentially harmless to her - very much alive in her heart - mom and dad. Also when on long drives at night, I like to find and tune in to religious radio stations for those late night sermons. The strangest one, I think, was a Korean pastor who learned English in Scotland railing against the Harry Potter books. The surreal nature of it was that this was around 1 or 2 in the morning, and his English was in an accent there is no way I could ever duplicate. Delightful to listen to, whether or not I agreed with his ideas. If someone comes to my door (unlikely now, as our door is on the other side of the farm driveway gate just off a dirt road) and they are educated in their religious practice and willing and able to have intelligent conversation, AND I have time to listen and discuss, I enjoy it thoroughly. But I never feel obligated to take part in this, as it's my property and my time they want to intrude upon. [/QUOTE]
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