Police tasered suicidal man and he died...

Discussion in 'The Watercooler' started by lovemysons, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. lovemysons

    lovemysons Well-Known Member

    This story really upsets me. I wish the police had more intensive training where the mentally ill are involved.

    What do you think?
    Tammy
     
  2. DDD

    DDD Well-Known Member

    The taser use in our community contributes to my difficulty sleeping. "They say" that having a metal plate in your head doesn't increase the danger but I think everyone is endangered by the use of tasers out in the streets. The training and the guidelines for use should be intensified. DDD
     
  3. lovemysons

    lovemysons Well-Known Member

    Hmm, DDD...I don't know about taser use if you have a metal plate in your head. But I can see how it would be a concern of yours. I have similar fears in regard to young difficult child and his heart monitor that he has in place now...pacemaker in the future.

    DDD...
    I don't know if you remember but oldest difficult child pulled a knife out when he was around 15. He cut himself and ran through the neighborhood. The police were everywhere looking for him...they did finally find him and ordered him to put the knife down. husband says oldest difficult child was almost shot and killed by the police that night. I was taking care of easy child and young difficult child away from the scene at the time. It was a VERY scary situation.
    I did tell yall on the board about this but like I said it was years ago.
    And now more recently young difficult child being taken into the hospital after suicide attempt...escorted by 2 police officers who only adgitated young difficult child. Young difficult child was WRONG to have spit at them. But both situations make me think of what happend to this young man in the story. I just almost get the feeling that police like to taunt the mentally ill/mentally unstable and develop the drama. Maybe that's wrong of me...I just don't think police, in many cases, have been trained to know what to do with the mentally ill. I don't think they act respectfully in all cases...not professional ya know.

    Tammy
     
  4. DammitJanet

    DammitJanet Well-Known Member Staff Member

    That article really does make it appear there is a problem in that police dept. I cant understand why those officers sent the EMT's away when they were clearly dealing with a mentally unstable person who needed transport to a hospital.

    On the other hand, this is why Jamie stopped to help that lone cop that had pulled the drunk driver the other day. He saw the cop had his taser out because he had an out of control driver that the officer was trying to control by himself. Jamie is not the most compassionate person alive anymore but he can normally control a situation if needed. He knows what mental illness is.
     
  5. lovemysons

    lovemysons Well-Known Member

    Exactly Janet...What the H were those police officers up to that they wanted the Pysch medication staff to leave.

    When oldest difficult child was "almost" shot by police...they too ordered husband to leave. husband said, "No, if my son is going to die tonight I'm going to be here with him".

    Makes you wonder doesn't it.

    Tammy
     
  6. slsh

    slsh member since 1999

    Well... we had an incident this week where the CPD shot and killed a panhandler who had pulled a knife and threatened someone. My first thought was why *didn't* they taser him? (Didn't help that one of the officers got shot in the process.)

    It's a fine line - if you have a violent mentally ill person, what is a safe way to stop the threat? Or *is* there a safe way? I'm not excusing the tasering. It's a major concern of mine because my kid is so unpredictable. Authority just eggs him on. But I certainly can understand if you have a person who is acting violently, that has to be the officers' first priority - the cause of the violence would be secondary in that crisis.

    It's a no-win, I think.
     
  7. DammitJanet

    DammitJanet Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Sue, you are right. Authority itself just seems to egg on so many people just because they are seen as authority and they are ODD. They refuse to comply with anything even if it is in their best interest to comply. Its like when a toddler screams no to something they really want to do. All logic has left the building.

    How does anyone deal with a person, sane or not, that is extremely violent? Would be nice if we could have police officers shoot them with a tranquilizing gun like they do wild animals but that is probably against some civil right. Maybe that should be revisited by the courts. I think that is why tazing was invented. That and the mace. However, if someone is on extreme drugs, even the tazer and mace sometimes wont stop them. Its a tough situation. People die, cops die.
     
  8. MrsMcNear46

    MrsMcNear46 New Member

    The same thing happened here in our little town, 4,000 ppl., about an 1/2 mile from our home. Young man, 17, holding a cordless phone in the middle of town, shouting that he wanted Jesus. Police were called, young man cuffed and put on the ground. 5 officers on the scene, several taser shots. Young man stopped breathing, paramedics called, CPR performed, and young man died a couple hours later. All police officers cleared of any wrong doing. This kid had a history of mental illness, that the police were aware of, yet they felt they had to taser him while he was cuffed on the ground.

    Our community made sure our voices were heard and the two officers directly involved, resigned from the force. The force had just received their new taser guns the week before. Had they not had them, this kid would have been maced and would still be alive today.

    Blessings,

    Julie
     
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