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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 285553" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I have wrestled with the medications/no medications questions for years. Not only on the mental health/behavioral issue but also on many other health issues. I have had medications seriously over AND under prescribed. I have had docs fake results because they could not be bothered to read a lab report. I have had excellent docs scratch their heads and look puzzled (NEVER a good thing to see on your docs face, or at least not a reassuring one!).</p><p></p><p>I had to resign myself to a lifetime of medications to deal with the arthritis and fight with docs to let them see that some of it didn't need medications - nutrition and the right exercise and other therapies were needed. I have hidden seeing a chiro from other docs because they would refuse treatment (one specific doctor who was excellent at his specialty but didn't think anything but medications would EVER help anyone). </p><p></p><p>I have had them tell me the medical issues were because I was nuts or a hypochondriac. Oddly enough I got more of the hypochondriac comments when I suggested physical therapy, chiropractic or other things than just medicines.</p><p></p><p>I think there is a HUGE overlap of treatment types that can be effective. Heck, many here have seen enormous behavioral changes from what you eat and not just counting artificial coloring or preservatives. </p><p></p><p>It is very tricky to find the treatment team that can fit your needs. I think many people are overmedicated with antidepressants and mood stabilizers and antipsychotics. I don't think this is mostly coming from psychiatrists. I see most of it from general practice docs or pediatricians. I actually had one "family practice" doctor who SWORE that zyprexa was the BEST medication to treat arthritis and migraines!!! It is NOT approved for EITHER of these things. </p><p></p><p>LOTS of this can and should be blamed on the pharmaceutical industry. Their reps go around providing food and hand sanitizer and dolls and golf outings so they can get the docs to prescribe their medications. As often as not they push docs to rx medications for diseases and problems the medications don't even touch. Many times the doctor is so overwhelmed and busy that they just rely on what the rep says - it is how I was almost killed by a single dose of zyprexa. My husband couldn't even find my pulse - my dad did, and they got me awake after 3 days, yes THREE days, by putting cold water on my face, ice cubed in my armpits (NOT fun but it managed to reach me). The jerk of a doctor refused to take my call after a frantic call from my husband about the situation. Five months after that his partners forced him out - and they had been partners since medical school. He did this to at least seven patients (I know one of his partners nurses).</p><p></p><p>And even after all of this I have two kids on medications daily. Plus thank you on asthma medications when it acts up. If we take Wiz off medications he is suicidal. Bad enough we have not successfuly done a medication wash in over ten years. Jessie may never be off medications - but it took over a YEAR to get her medications up to a therapeutic level because she is so sensitive to them.</p><p></p><p>I don't have any concrete answers, but I believe that many people would be helped more by a therapist they can connect with than are currently being helped. I also think that using a combination of approaches can often work better than any one approach can hope to work.</p><p></p><p>I hope and pray that someday we can make evaluation for sensory integration disorder mandatory at least every other year until the teen years. It is one therapy that is cost effective, EASY, non-invasive and can have VISIBLE and DRAMATIC results almost instantly. When thank you was evaluated he started off trying to cut out a circle and he started saying he couldn't do it, he was useless, all kinds of awful things about himself. Stuff NO ONE had ever told him. As the Occupational Therapist (OT) did some very gentle joint compressions with his neck and shoulders he almost magically began to cut more confidently and he even changed what he was saying. The Occupational Therapist (OT) did NOTHING to influence this o ther than the joint compressions. She didn't say anything, change facial expression, nothing.</p><p></p><p>It is PROVEN that brushing therapy re-routes brain pathways to make the brain handle things better. I truly hope and pray that EVERY one of our difficult children has been evaluated by a private Occupational Therapist (OT) for this. Especially the kids with autistic spectrum disorders - it just makes such a HUGE difference.</p><p></p><p>Off my soapbox. This is an interesting topic, hope I didn't go overboard!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 285553, member: 1233"] I have wrestled with the medications/no medications questions for years. Not only on the mental health/behavioral issue but also on many other health issues. I have had medications seriously over AND under prescribed. I have had docs fake results because they could not be bothered to read a lab report. I have had excellent docs scratch their heads and look puzzled (NEVER a good thing to see on your docs face, or at least not a reassuring one!). I had to resign myself to a lifetime of medications to deal with the arthritis and fight with docs to let them see that some of it didn't need medications - nutrition and the right exercise and other therapies were needed. I have hidden seeing a chiro from other docs because they would refuse treatment (one specific doctor who was excellent at his specialty but didn't think anything but medications would EVER help anyone). I have had them tell me the medical issues were because I was nuts or a hypochondriac. Oddly enough I got more of the hypochondriac comments when I suggested physical therapy, chiropractic or other things than just medicines. I think there is a HUGE overlap of treatment types that can be effective. Heck, many here have seen enormous behavioral changes from what you eat and not just counting artificial coloring or preservatives. It is very tricky to find the treatment team that can fit your needs. I think many people are overmedicated with antidepressants and mood stabilizers and antipsychotics. I don't think this is mostly coming from psychiatrists. I see most of it from general practice docs or pediatricians. I actually had one "family practice" doctor who SWORE that zyprexa was the BEST medication to treat arthritis and migraines!!! It is NOT approved for EITHER of these things. LOTS of this can and should be blamed on the pharmaceutical industry. Their reps go around providing food and hand sanitizer and dolls and golf outings so they can get the docs to prescribe their medications. As often as not they push docs to rx medications for diseases and problems the medications don't even touch. Many times the doctor is so overwhelmed and busy that they just rely on what the rep says - it is how I was almost killed by a single dose of zyprexa. My husband couldn't even find my pulse - my dad did, and they got me awake after 3 days, yes THREE days, by putting cold water on my face, ice cubed in my armpits (NOT fun but it managed to reach me). The jerk of a doctor refused to take my call after a frantic call from my husband about the situation. Five months after that his partners forced him out - and they had been partners since medical school. He did this to at least seven patients (I know one of his partners nurses). And even after all of this I have two kids on medications daily. Plus thank you on asthma medications when it acts up. If we take Wiz off medications he is suicidal. Bad enough we have not successfuly done a medication wash in over ten years. Jessie may never be off medications - but it took over a YEAR to get her medications up to a therapeutic level because she is so sensitive to them. I don't have any concrete answers, but I believe that many people would be helped more by a therapist they can connect with than are currently being helped. I also think that using a combination of approaches can often work better than any one approach can hope to work. I hope and pray that someday we can make evaluation for sensory integration disorder mandatory at least every other year until the teen years. It is one therapy that is cost effective, EASY, non-invasive and can have VISIBLE and DRAMATIC results almost instantly. When thank you was evaluated he started off trying to cut out a circle and he started saying he couldn't do it, he was useless, all kinds of awful things about himself. Stuff NO ONE had ever told him. As the Occupational Therapist (OT) did some very gentle joint compressions with his neck and shoulders he almost magically began to cut more confidently and he even changed what he was saying. The Occupational Therapist (OT) did NOTHING to influence this o ther than the joint compressions. She didn't say anything, change facial expression, nothing. It is PROVEN that brushing therapy re-routes brain pathways to make the brain handle things better. I truly hope and pray that EVERY one of our difficult children has been evaluated by a private Occupational Therapist (OT) for this. Especially the kids with autistic spectrum disorders - it just makes such a HUGE difference. Off my soapbox. This is an interesting topic, hope I didn't go overboard! [/QUOTE]
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