I've emailed K 3-4 times and gotten no response. I haven't heard from her in at least 3 wks. When I told her I was sending halloween cards for the grands. I even finally sent her one via myspace......because there I can see if she read the darn thing. That one was 3 days ago. She's read it. Been online since and no response. I had hoped she'd want me to call to talk with the grands. I don't have the new number or else I'd have just called. sigh I dunno what's up. Even the last several emails have been brief and distant. I guess she didn't take that no one over here was going to rescue her again very well. On top of that I told her that due to her Dad being out of work each grandkid is getting one present this year. I asked her for things the kids would like to have and got a whatever in response. It's looking like she's not so thrilled with us since it's clearly evident we have no plans to help financially support her and the kids. She hasn't emailed the other kids either in ages. While it hurts to see that she really hasn't changed that much over the years........I am at least thankful for getting to know the grands again. That was a gift I never thought I'd get. And Nichole got closure on the whole K abandonment issue. If she wants to distance herself again I can't do anything about it. I will continue to do my best to be a grandma to the kids......as long as she lets me. I can't do much else. I guess some difficult child's never stop being difficult children.