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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 458817" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I don't ahve anything to add to the info about how adhd is handled in France, but I do have some suggestions. The time the kids are not in class is when your son is having problems the most, as I understand it. What to kids normally do at that time? Just run and play in a field? Climb on playsets? Play games like kickball or soccer or whatever is normal there?</p><p></p><p>Our schools stopped being able to take recess away (unstructured outside play time usually after lunch and maybe another time during the day depending on the age of the kids) as a punishment for ANYTHING. They could not keep kids inside during recess and even having them sit in a certain spot was not allowed. This came from our state legislature because the increasing obesity problems in children. We had a LOT of angry teachers and even more who firmly believed that now the school had NO way to punish a child. </p><p></p><p>For several years, kids who got to school before the first bell (giving five min to get to class) would stay outside and have "walk and talk". the kids walk a big circuit around the playground talking. Once they could not take recess away from kids, some of the teachers implemented walk and talk recess. Kids who got into trouble in class would have to participate in walk and talk rather than play on the equipment or with the balls, etc... </p><p></p><p>Every single teacher who objected to not being able to take away recess was SHOCKED. The kids ALL started behaving better. those being punished were able to move about and get the energy burned off but did have some "punishment" because walk and talk wasn't their choice. The kids who were not problems also started doing walk and talk when it suited them, and gave them another option to keep out of trouble on the playground.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what options J has at recess, but why not work out a couple of things that he can plan on doing that won't get him into trouble? often with executive function problems it is very very hard to work out how to solve a challenge. Right now J's challenge is to learn to fit in, to play the game where he lets the adults think they are smarter than he is and he gives them what they want so they will give him what he wants. Work out a couple of activities, even if you have to buy a couple of balls or whatever for the playground, and see if ahving something planned to do at that time makes it easier on everyone, esp J.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 458817, member: 1233"] I don't ahve anything to add to the info about how adhd is handled in France, but I do have some suggestions. The time the kids are not in class is when your son is having problems the most, as I understand it. What to kids normally do at that time? Just run and play in a field? Climb on playsets? Play games like kickball or soccer or whatever is normal there? Our schools stopped being able to take recess away (unstructured outside play time usually after lunch and maybe another time during the day depending on the age of the kids) as a punishment for ANYTHING. They could not keep kids inside during recess and even having them sit in a certain spot was not allowed. This came from our state legislature because the increasing obesity problems in children. We had a LOT of angry teachers and even more who firmly believed that now the school had NO way to punish a child. For several years, kids who got to school before the first bell (giving five min to get to class) would stay outside and have "walk and talk". the kids walk a big circuit around the playground talking. Once they could not take recess away from kids, some of the teachers implemented walk and talk recess. Kids who got into trouble in class would have to participate in walk and talk rather than play on the equipment or with the balls, etc... Every single teacher who objected to not being able to take away recess was SHOCKED. The kids ALL started behaving better. those being punished were able to move about and get the energy burned off but did have some "punishment" because walk and talk wasn't their choice. The kids who were not problems also started doing walk and talk when it suited them, and gave them another option to keep out of trouble on the playground. I don't know what options J has at recess, but why not work out a couple of things that he can plan on doing that won't get him into trouble? often with executive function problems it is very very hard to work out how to solve a challenge. Right now J's challenge is to learn to fit in, to play the game where he lets the adults think they are smarter than he is and he gives them what they want so they will give him what he wants. Work out a couple of activities, even if you have to buy a couple of balls or whatever for the playground, and see if ahving something planned to do at that time makes it easier on everyone, esp J. [/QUOTE]
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