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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 234062" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>I did feel that way- until it was explained to me that it's a meeting with employees of the sd with different roles (social worker, school psychiatric, principal or cm from home school, etc) and that it was for sd to determine internally if they were mmeting the needs of the kid (eg- FAPE). I'm ok with that. It's clearly a CYA, standard procedure sort of thing, if that's the case. I found this out by calling a receptionist at the central school board office and asking. That sounds lame, I know, BUT I made myself sound - well, not like a parent- and just ask her to tell me what these meetings were and who was normally in attendance. I think she thought I was someone from another county agency. She told me it was really for the sd to determine if they were the agency that was supposed to be cover ing (ie- funding) a specific need. She said parents were not in attendance. I asked "so, do they discuss what the student needs and determine if it's available" She said no- the determination of what the student needs is made in an iep meeting or another meeting (I would assume fapt) with the parent there. This meeting is for the sd to check themselves and see if they are meeting those needs and if there are needs that they cannot meet, then the determination is made to call in other agencies who can.</p><p></p><p>So, that is fine. It became clear that this was not something specific to us- apparently the sd has these meetings every two weeks as a standard and parents are NEVER in attendance. If my understanding is correct, that would leave the door open for parents showing up saying sd should have paid for this and that, but didn't.</p><p></p><p>I truly think the principal is mistaken. The FAPT team is the meeting where people from different county agencies meet with the parent of a family in need of help that has been referred by one of these agencies and determine how they can help that family. It is funded by an "Act" that was written in the state law to assist families with "at-risk" youth or youth in need of extenive services that cover more than one agency's realm. For instance, a severely disabled child's family might need a social worker, an in-home health care person and child care, and there's no way the family can afford that. Then, either the Dept of health, social services, or the school would refer this family to fapt because the care exceeds what one agency alone can provide. But, before that agency can refer it to fapt, they have to legitimately identify the various types of services and show that they exceed that agency's capability. </p><p></p><p>The principal has asked for my list so she can go to MDT (the sd mtg) and say "this family needs financial assistance, crisis intervention at times, mentorship, along with testing that the sd will cover", for example. The parent does have to sign release forms for all these agencies to communicate if the family accepts help provided and funded this way. That's ok- that's similar to allowing psychiatrist and therapist to communicate, I think.</p><p></p><p>My big concern is that I don't want anyone at the MDT meeting deciding that, well, this family really only needs someone to tutor difficult child to help him get caught up on school work, and then never go any further or go to fapt and ask for funding to pay for a mentor to tutor difficult child, but all the other needs never get addressed and me never be allowed to get involved. I don't think that will happen, but given my luck with people in this county so far, I'm not banking on this working out just yet. </p><p></p><p>However, I did read this form carefully before signing. It was not like any form where a parent signs giving permission for others to meet about their child without their involvement or attendance. It clearly stated that it was a fapt form and was for release of information for the county agencies (and it listed the standard county agencies) and that's all. I think the principal will show up with it and it will mean nothing because it is not a fapt team meeting. It is the form that I would need to sign if this goes to fapt. As far as any info- the sd already knows difficult child legal problems. The only other agency we;'ve had contact with is when gal got social services involved after difficult child set the brush fire to see if DSS thought difficult child should be placed outside of home. DSS determined that I was doing more than the county or state could and that difficult child should remain in the home. So, there is nothing to hide there. If they end up pulling police reports, which I don't thinkk they will, it will just reveals numerous 911 calls from me at certain periods of the year reporting erratic behavior from my son or asking for help to get a tdo, so that just works in my favor.</p><p></p><p>I'm going to talk to social worker at family meeting tomorrow. I seriously cannot imagine difficult child coming home without a fapt meeting at least lined up- and that's the extreme case. Personally, at this point, I'm on board with my therapist who said she thought difficult child needed to go to an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) for a few months- not forever- but for a while. Given that he's been manic every late winter/early spring for the past 3 years and broken the law every time and is on a suspended sentence, and now it's that time of year and he's put a knife at me, I agree that it would be a good idea and it would give me time to catch up financially and get the house back to a stable home life, which woul;d only help him maintain stability.</p><p></p><p>But, If we can't get that right away, I would let difficult child come back home with supports that are needed for me to meet his needs (financial assistance to pay bills, crisis intervention, etc). But, I am going to be honest and tell them, I can't meet his needs as it stands, so if they can't get that lined up, then they can call PO and tell her. I can't take him to a home where I know I can't meet his needs right? I think it should all be thrown in PO's park.</p><p></p><p>I can't believe she has the audacity to know all this is going on and do nothing, yet she goes out of her way to make issue with me over not letting difficult child play M rated games. If I sat on recommendations from therapist and psychiatrist and didn't act on them, she'd have my rear in court. Why doesn't she have to act on them, then?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 234062, member: 3699"] I did feel that way- until it was explained to me that it's a meeting with employees of the sd with different roles (social worker, school psychiatric, principal or cm from home school, etc) and that it was for sd to determine internally if they were mmeting the needs of the kid (eg- FAPE). I'm ok with that. It's clearly a CYA, standard procedure sort of thing, if that's the case. I found this out by calling a receptionist at the central school board office and asking. That sounds lame, I know, BUT I made myself sound - well, not like a parent- and just ask her to tell me what these meetings were and who was normally in attendance. I think she thought I was someone from another county agency. She told me it was really for the sd to determine if they were the agency that was supposed to be cover ing (ie- funding) a specific need. She said parents were not in attendance. I asked "so, do they discuss what the student needs and determine if it's available" She said no- the determination of what the student needs is made in an iep meeting or another meeting (I would assume fapt) with the parent there. This meeting is for the sd to check themselves and see if they are meeting those needs and if there are needs that they cannot meet, then the determination is made to call in other agencies who can. So, that is fine. It became clear that this was not something specific to us- apparently the sd has these meetings every two weeks as a standard and parents are NEVER in attendance. If my understanding is correct, that would leave the door open for parents showing up saying sd should have paid for this and that, but didn't. I truly think the principal is mistaken. The FAPT team is the meeting where people from different county agencies meet with the parent of a family in need of help that has been referred by one of these agencies and determine how they can help that family. It is funded by an "Act" that was written in the state law to assist families with "at-risk" youth or youth in need of extenive services that cover more than one agency's realm. For instance, a severely disabled child's family might need a social worker, an in-home health care person and child care, and there's no way the family can afford that. Then, either the Dept of health, social services, or the school would refer this family to fapt because the care exceeds what one agency alone can provide. But, before that agency can refer it to fapt, they have to legitimately identify the various types of services and show that they exceed that agency's capability. The principal has asked for my list so she can go to MDT (the sd mtg) and say "this family needs financial assistance, crisis intervention at times, mentorship, along with testing that the sd will cover", for example. The parent does have to sign release forms for all these agencies to communicate if the family accepts help provided and funded this way. That's ok- that's similar to allowing psychiatrist and therapist to communicate, I think. My big concern is that I don't want anyone at the MDT meeting deciding that, well, this family really only needs someone to tutor difficult child to help him get caught up on school work, and then never go any further or go to fapt and ask for funding to pay for a mentor to tutor difficult child, but all the other needs never get addressed and me never be allowed to get involved. I don't think that will happen, but given my luck with people in this county so far, I'm not banking on this working out just yet. However, I did read this form carefully before signing. It was not like any form where a parent signs giving permission for others to meet about their child without their involvement or attendance. It clearly stated that it was a fapt form and was for release of information for the county agencies (and it listed the standard county agencies) and that's all. I think the principal will show up with it and it will mean nothing because it is not a fapt team meeting. It is the form that I would need to sign if this goes to fapt. As far as any info- the sd already knows difficult child legal problems. The only other agency we;'ve had contact with is when gal got social services involved after difficult child set the brush fire to see if DSS thought difficult child should be placed outside of home. DSS determined that I was doing more than the county or state could and that difficult child should remain in the home. So, there is nothing to hide there. If they end up pulling police reports, which I don't thinkk they will, it will just reveals numerous 911 calls from me at certain periods of the year reporting erratic behavior from my son or asking for help to get a tdo, so that just works in my favor. I'm going to talk to social worker at family meeting tomorrow. I seriously cannot imagine difficult child coming home without a fapt meeting at least lined up- and that's the extreme case. Personally, at this point, I'm on board with my therapist who said she thought difficult child needed to go to an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) for a few months- not forever- but for a while. Given that he's been manic every late winter/early spring for the past 3 years and broken the law every time and is on a suspended sentence, and now it's that time of year and he's put a knife at me, I agree that it would be a good idea and it would give me time to catch up financially and get the house back to a stable home life, which woul;d only help him maintain stability. But, If we can't get that right away, I would let difficult child come back home with supports that are needed for me to meet his needs (financial assistance to pay bills, crisis intervention, etc). But, I am going to be honest and tell them, I can't meet his needs as it stands, so if they can't get that lined up, then they can call PO and tell her. I can't take him to a home where I know I can't meet his needs right? I think it should all be thrown in PO's park. I can't believe she has the audacity to know all this is going on and do nothing, yet she goes out of her way to make issue with me over not letting difficult child play M rated games. If I sat on recommendations from therapist and psychiatrist and didn't act on them, she'd have my rear in court. Why doesn't she have to act on them, then? [/QUOTE]
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