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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 336359" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>I haven't read Marg's response because I'm in a rush to go check my dinner so pardon me if I repeat something she's said.</p><p></p><p>First, welcome!!</p><p></p><p>Second, could you let us know your child's age and if he's ever seen a therapist (therapist) or psychiatrist (psychiatrist). Most of our kids (difficult child) here have so please don't take that as an insult- our kids need extra help and we parents do, too since they are challenging to raise.</p><p></p><p>That being said, many school systems (sd) punish kids these days for what I call "typical misbehavior", meaning that the behavior really isn't out of the norm for a child that age and in a given circumstance. However, many of those punishments go to extremes. It's difficult to tell for sure if this is what your sd has done without knowing more specifics, but it does sound like your son did warrant some punishment, as you acknowledge.</p><p></p><p>If your son has been labeled as a "bad" kid or is targeted by people in the sd and is "always" getting in trouble at school, I would suggest going along with their plan to get him on an IEP. (I am assuming that he's not already on one and that this is what they are wanting to initiate by trying to get you to agree to a "special" class.). But don't worry too much- being on an IEP does not necessarily mean a special class. If he does need to be in a Special Education class, so be it. But based on the little info you have provided, he would not. What an IEP does offer you him (and you) is that 1) they can't place him in any specific place without your permission/agreement (with a few exceptions) because you will be a part of the IEP team and then your suggestions of how to deal with him at school must be considered, 2) he is protected from excessive suspensions and other extreme punishments to a certain extent but moreso than he has now, and 3) whatever he mmight need in the way of support or help to stay out of trouble can be addressed thru the IEP. A student can have an IEP and stay in mainstream classes- especially if the only issues are the type of behavior you are describing. </p><p></p><p>He would need to be evaluated and determined to need an IEP before getting one. I would suggest having this evaluation done privately instead of the sd doing it, if possible. Actually, they might still do their own but they have to consider the results of one you get privately, too. This would involve testing by a neuropsychologist and he/she will have you and at least one teacher at school complete forms about the behavior as part of it. Some (most) insurance companies won't cover the entire cost so that could play into whether or not you can get this done. But I would have a hard time trusting the results of a sd's evaluation alone under these circumstances. Once a sd starts treating a student as nothing but a behavior problem, you need to get outside sources to back up that he's not and get supports for him in school to make sure he doesn't get forced into a roll that will eventually lead him into slipping thru the cracks instead of an appropriate education.</p><p></p><p>Oh- I am assuming you are in the US. If you get confortable with it, it might also help to let us know the state or country you are in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 336359, member: 3699"] I haven't read Marg's response because I'm in a rush to go check my dinner so pardon me if I repeat something she's said. First, welcome!! Second, could you let us know your child's age and if he's ever seen a therapist (therapist) or psychiatrist (psychiatrist). Most of our kids (difficult child) here have so please don't take that as an insult- our kids need extra help and we parents do, too since they are challenging to raise. That being said, many school systems (sd) punish kids these days for what I call "typical misbehavior", meaning that the behavior really isn't out of the norm for a child that age and in a given circumstance. However, many of those punishments go to extremes. It's difficult to tell for sure if this is what your sd has done without knowing more specifics, but it does sound like your son did warrant some punishment, as you acknowledge. If your son has been labeled as a "bad" kid or is targeted by people in the sd and is "always" getting in trouble at school, I would suggest going along with their plan to get him on an IEP. (I am assuming that he's not already on one and that this is what they are wanting to initiate by trying to get you to agree to a "special" class.). But don't worry too much- being on an IEP does not necessarily mean a special class. If he does need to be in a Special Education class, so be it. But based on the little info you have provided, he would not. What an IEP does offer you him (and you) is that 1) they can't place him in any specific place without your permission/agreement (with a few exceptions) because you will be a part of the IEP team and then your suggestions of how to deal with him at school must be considered, 2) he is protected from excessive suspensions and other extreme punishments to a certain extent but moreso than he has now, and 3) whatever he mmight need in the way of support or help to stay out of trouble can be addressed thru the IEP. A student can have an IEP and stay in mainstream classes- especially if the only issues are the type of behavior you are describing. He would need to be evaluated and determined to need an IEP before getting one. I would suggest having this evaluation done privately instead of the sd doing it, if possible. Actually, they might still do their own but they have to consider the results of one you get privately, too. This would involve testing by a neuropsychologist and he/she will have you and at least one teacher at school complete forms about the behavior as part of it. Some (most) insurance companies won't cover the entire cost so that could play into whether or not you can get this done. But I would have a hard time trusting the results of a sd's evaluation alone under these circumstances. Once a sd starts treating a student as nothing but a behavior problem, you need to get outside sources to back up that he's not and get supports for him in school to make sure he doesn't get forced into a roll that will eventually lead him into slipping thru the cracks instead of an appropriate education. Oh- I am assuming you are in the US. If you get confortable with it, it might also help to let us know the state or country you are in. [/QUOTE]
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