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<blockquote data-quote="scent of cedar" data-source="post: 80824" data-attributes="member: 1721"><p>An interesting and timely discussion. :</p><p></p><p>What we need to know is not how awful the current system is (it IS awful) but what happened to change what was a workable system into the albatross we all are dealing with, now.</p><p></p><p>Throwing money at it is not going to change it.</p><p></p><p>Michael Moore did us all a service by dragging the situation to our attention once again ~ but he has not exposed the root problem.</p><p></p><p>The root problem is that it is no longer the patient or even, the physician, who has power in this system. There is so much money being leaked to third and fourth and fifth parties that the true cost of medical procedures or medications is inflated beyond all reason and NO ONE can afford medical care.</p><p></p><p>Medical insurance has become more and more expensive and is covering less and less.</p><p></p><p>How did that happen?</p><p></p><p>THAT is the question we need to learn the answers to.</p><p></p><p>Passing the keys to the treasury over to the honchos who currently run the system will only get us more of the same.</p><p></p><p>Why DOES medical care cost what it does, today?</p><p></p><p>Where IS all the money going?</p><p></p><p>Why ARE hospitals short-staffing their nurses to the point that many, many nurses have simply left the field?</p><p></p><p>The questions we ask will determine the answers we receive. </p><p></p><p>But in this day and age, no one seems to want to look foolish by actually asking a question. We all seem to want to look like we understand enough about a thing to decry the current situation ~ but we don't really know enough about it to discuss it intelligently. "The government should do something" is not an answer.</p><p></p><p>In fact, "the government should do something" is the worst answer there could ever be.</p><p></p><p>What are your questions?</p><p></p><p>IS it true that socialized medicine is a better system than our current system?</p><p></p><p>Were we all better served before the HMOs came to power?</p><p></p><p>Was there ever a time when someone without insurance could access the health care system (and you know darn well that there was such a time ~ what happened)?</p><p></p><p>We have to be willing to look foolish until we learn.</p><p></p><p>Our questions will be simple, at first ~ but we will become wiser.</p><p></p><p>And eventually, we will begin making decision based on fact instead of soundbites or movies or emotion.</p><p></p><p>This is a very good topic.</p><p></p><p>Barbara</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scent of cedar, post: 80824, member: 1721"] An interesting and timely discussion. : What we need to know is not how awful the current system is (it IS awful) but what happened to change what was a workable system into the albatross we all are dealing with, now. Throwing money at it is not going to change it. Michael Moore did us all a service by dragging the situation to our attention once again ~ but he has not exposed the root problem. The root problem is that it is no longer the patient or even, the physician, who has power in this system. There is so much money being leaked to third and fourth and fifth parties that the true cost of medical procedures or medications is inflated beyond all reason and NO ONE can afford medical care. Medical insurance has become more and more expensive and is covering less and less. How did that happen? THAT is the question we need to learn the answers to. Passing the keys to the treasury over to the honchos who currently run the system will only get us more of the same. Why DOES medical care cost what it does, today? Where IS all the money going? Why ARE hospitals short-staffing their nurses to the point that many, many nurses have simply left the field? The questions we ask will determine the answers we receive. But in this day and age, no one seems to want to look foolish by actually asking a question. We all seem to want to look like we understand enough about a thing to decry the current situation ~ but we don't really know enough about it to discuss it intelligently. "The government should do something" is not an answer. In fact, "the government should do something" is the worst answer there could ever be. What are your questions? IS it true that socialized medicine is a better system than our current system? Were we all better served before the HMOs came to power? Was there ever a time when someone without insurance could access the health care system (and you know darn well that there was such a time ~ what happened)? We have to be willing to look foolish until we learn. Our questions will be simple, at first ~ but we will become wiser. And eventually, we will begin making decision based on fact instead of soundbites or movies or emotion. This is a very good topic. Barbara [/QUOTE]
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