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<blockquote data-quote="Sara PA" data-source="post: 81410" data-attributes="member: 1498"><p><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: weaselqt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of the news chanels (20/20, Primetime, 60 minutes - not sure) showed that people in Canada wait in lines that were horrendously long - days long - just to see a doctor and waiting lists were 2 years long. Is that really true? </div></div></p><p>I'm on another board with a large international group of posters. Not one Canadian has ever waited that long for anything. Brits talk about calling the local surgery (doctor's office) and getting seen within 24 hours. Not one person in any First World country would take our health care system over theirs. They find our system appalling. </p><p></p><p>There is some issue with MRI machines in Canada; they don't seem to have a lot of them. That's all I've heard. </p><p></p><p><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It also showed many Canadians who came to the states for healthcare because they would have died if they stayed on the waiting list.</div></div></p><p>None of the Canadians on the other board even know anyone who has come to the US for health care. </p><p></p><p><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wondering if any of this is true or just what they want us to hear or see. </div></div></p><p>It's scare tactics. </p><p></p><p>by the way, HMOs aren't socialized medicine. In fact, they represent highly capitalized medicine because the profit for the HMO is the driving force behind the management of the subscribers health care. It's a profit for the business, not care for the patient, driven system. </p><p></p><p>And the World Health Organization list comparing health care systems of all 191 countries put out in 2000 lists the US as 37 and Cuba as 39. France is on top.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sara PA, post: 81410, member: 1498"] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: weaselqt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of the news chanels (20/20, Primetime, 60 minutes - not sure) showed that people in Canada wait in lines that were horrendously long - days long - just to see a doctor and waiting lists were 2 years long. Is that really true? </div></div> I'm on another board with a large international group of posters. Not one Canadian has ever waited that long for anything. Brits talk about calling the local surgery (doctor's office) and getting seen within 24 hours. Not one person in any First World country would take our health care system over theirs. They find our system appalling. There is some issue with MRI machines in Canada; they don't seem to have a lot of them. That's all I've heard. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It also showed many Canadians who came to the states for healthcare because they would have died if they stayed on the waiting list.</div></div> None of the Canadians on the other board even know anyone who has come to the US for health care. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wondering if any of this is true or just what they want us to hear or see. </div></div> It's scare tactics. by the way, HMOs aren't socialized medicine. In fact, they represent highly capitalized medicine because the profit for the HMO is the driving force behind the management of the subscribers health care. It's a profit for the business, not care for the patient, driven system. And the World Health Organization list comparing health care systems of all 191 countries put out in 2000 lists the US as 37 and Cuba as 39. France is on top. [/QUOTE]
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