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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 375655" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>You can probably get a lawyer to talk to you for little or no money for about 25 minutes. Many give an initial free consultation. Find one and get their take on this. For the most part, bills that haven't been paid in 7 years are unable to be collected. This is in most areas we have lived in, but may be different in your area. It goes on your credit report but legally cannot be collected. We learned this when we first saw a credit counselor. We had four bills that were in dispute (one was because a neighbor stole cable by accessing it at a junction on a pole in front of our home. We didn't even have cable tv at the time.) and they were all within just a couple of months of the 7 year deadline. The counselor said that if we paid even $1 on them it would let them continue to collect on the accounts, which is why they were begging for even $5 or $10. Because they were truly for things we did not do/owe (the neighbor did a few other nasty things to us, including hijacking electricity from us when his went out - without letting us know about it and by running wires that were very very dangerous to anyone/anything near them!) we simply did not answer the calls from the creditors other than to threaten to tell the FTC about them and the accounts disappeared in a short period of time.</p><p> </p><p>As you were told that you would not be charged by the investigator and the vet, I would think you do not owe the bill. I am very sure the judge took care of things for his relative - it happens often in many areas. I would still try to find the investigator and let Jamie talk to him. Have Tony write out (or dictate to you and you type) an affadavit stating that he saw the neighbor shoot the dogs while the dogs were on your property not doing anything they were not supposed to do. After it is typed up take it and Tony and his ID to a notary and have it notarized. That may help it be accepted by the judge.</p><p> </p><p>Get whatever listing is in the computer at the clerk's office. Even if it is just a print of the screen that lists the case and that it was dismissed. If the lawyer will do it for cheap, have him ask the judge if he helped his relative on this case. not sure the best way to do it, but someone, somewhere knows what happened. Not sure it is worth finding it out, but that is something you have to decide. Get the clerk to write out a note saying the files have been lost or destroyed, along with the list of everyone who has looked at them (unless that is in the computer). </p><p> </p><p>Be SURE to tell the judge, and have in writing, that the shooter is related to this judge and it looks like all the documents disappeared somehow - which looks suspicious. Also tell the judge that you were told that you were NOT liable for the bill and are on disability (and were at that time) and had/have NO WAY to pay the bill. Tell him that the ONLY reason you allowed the treatment and necropsy was because the investigator told you that you would not be accountable for the bill. The investigator or his office should be accountable because all this was done on HIS say so.</p><p> </p><p>Can you even find the investigator now? maybe finding him to get the real story would help, even if he has to be subpoenad. If they try to stick you with the bill, find a reporter at the local paper who likes to expose this kind of thing.</p><p> </p><p>I remember when it happened very well, and how upset you were. I don't know how far back posts are saved, but maybe you could find some info in the archives about this? Or if one of the former owners has any backups on an old disc of some kind it might have those posts. You were traumatized and very afraid of this <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/2012/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />****, and also very very angry at him. I do remember you posting about the necropsy and treatment and how you were told that the neighbor would have to pay for the bill, not you under any circumstances. If you need a letter about that, drop a PM to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 375655, member: 1233"] You can probably get a lawyer to talk to you for little or no money for about 25 minutes. Many give an initial free consultation. Find one and get their take on this. For the most part, bills that haven't been paid in 7 years are unable to be collected. This is in most areas we have lived in, but may be different in your area. It goes on your credit report but legally cannot be collected. We learned this when we first saw a credit counselor. We had four bills that were in dispute (one was because a neighbor stole cable by accessing it at a junction on a pole in front of our home. We didn't even have cable tv at the time.) and they were all within just a couple of months of the 7 year deadline. The counselor said that if we paid even $1 on them it would let them continue to collect on the accounts, which is why they were begging for even $5 or $10. Because they were truly for things we did not do/owe (the neighbor did a few other nasty things to us, including hijacking electricity from us when his went out - without letting us know about it and by running wires that were very very dangerous to anyone/anything near them!) we simply did not answer the calls from the creditors other than to threaten to tell the FTC about them and the accounts disappeared in a short period of time. As you were told that you would not be charged by the investigator and the vet, I would think you do not owe the bill. I am very sure the judge took care of things for his relative - it happens often in many areas. I would still try to find the investigator and let Jamie talk to him. Have Tony write out (or dictate to you and you type) an affadavit stating that he saw the neighbor shoot the dogs while the dogs were on your property not doing anything they were not supposed to do. After it is typed up take it and Tony and his ID to a notary and have it notarized. That may help it be accepted by the judge. Get whatever listing is in the computer at the clerk's office. Even if it is just a print of the screen that lists the case and that it was dismissed. If the lawyer will do it for cheap, have him ask the judge if he helped his relative on this case. not sure the best way to do it, but someone, somewhere knows what happened. Not sure it is worth finding it out, but that is something you have to decide. Get the clerk to write out a note saying the files have been lost or destroyed, along with the list of everyone who has looked at them (unless that is in the computer). Be SURE to tell the judge, and have in writing, that the shooter is related to this judge and it looks like all the documents disappeared somehow - which looks suspicious. Also tell the judge that you were told that you were NOT liable for the bill and are on disability (and were at that time) and had/have NO WAY to pay the bill. Tell him that the ONLY reason you allowed the treatment and necropsy was because the investigator told you that you would not be accountable for the bill. The investigator or his office should be accountable because all this was done on HIS say so. Can you even find the investigator now? maybe finding him to get the real story would help, even if he has to be subpoenad. If they try to stick you with the bill, find a reporter at the local paper who likes to expose this kind of thing. I remember when it happened very well, and how upset you were. I don't know how far back posts are saved, but maybe you could find some info in the archives about this? Or if one of the former owners has any backups on an old disc of some kind it might have those posts. You were traumatized and very afraid of this :censored2:****, and also very very angry at him. I do remember you posting about the necropsy and treatment and how you were told that the neighbor would have to pay for the bill, not you under any circumstances. If you need a letter about that, drop a PM to me. [/QUOTE]
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