It's just nagging the hades outta me. (and trust me, I'm working hard at keeping my mind off it) We've done several......ok......many drive bys on the apartment of katies. Blinds are always in the exact same position. Kids are never outside even on pretty days. Several drive bys at not long after dark and there are no lights on in the apartment. Now we aren't always deliberately driving by.....she lives off the main street where all the stores in town are, the movie theater ect, so we have other reasons to be driving by. And since the blinds thing....I've made it a point to look at her apartment as we pass. Having lived in the complex myself for 3-4 yrs, makes picking out her apartment much easier to do, and no leaves on the trees so we don't get a blocked view. easy child has attempted to give kayla her books twice. Each time on a sat. Each time the front blinds were up halfway. Katie and M have no control over those kids. If they'd been inside and those blinds open, we'd have at least seen their heads pop up in a window. Yet sils little sis reports alex was in school friday. Extreme doubt they were able to move. (and no they can't switch apartments except to move to a larger apart & they're in the largest) They were running out of both cash and FS by mid month at this place. No way could they pay rent/deposit and utility deposit for somewhere else. Plus I've been calling katie's house phone. It hasn't been disconnected. It just tells me her message box is full. Which tells me she didn't have internet shut off either, because with her it's all or nothing. Trust me, the kid is lazy. And as for the moving.......she wouldn't be able to afford to pay rent and utilites somewhere else, no landlord would accept her probably because she doesn't have a job, just alex's check. That's what happened last time.......she got into a trailer and was without utilities by the next month. I don't think she's quite dumb enough to do it again. And there is no vehicle in which to move their stuff. The odds of them being gone every time we drive by regardless of the time of day..........uh, no. So........those things keep popping up in my head. Along with the fact we haven't heard a peep out of her since the thursday before the party. Regardless of what her sisters said, she most likely would've responded to me. I've said much worse to her than what I said the last time in the past (many times) and it's never stopped her from talking to me. (probably because I'm the one that buys most of the stuff for the kids) Then I think, well maybe she did make M move for fear she'd be arrested along with him, and he got snarky on her. DV shelter maybe? Possible. But she'd probably have access to computers there and could contact us. And......she knows we'd back her in that situation, regardless. And she's not stupid, she could claim to have been terrified of him and that's why she never did anything......so we'd "forgive" her negligence. Know what I mean?? So not really thinking dv but it is possible. Then I dare think, what if the officer took the paper evidence to the prosecutor but he didn't think it was enough and turned it over to cps. Cps starts to investigate. Now I dunno if they'd have rights to take into evidence any computers found on the property or not. But I do know cps and the cops make a practice of questioning kids at school before parents have a chance to drill a "story" into them. And the kids might have spilled the beans........most especially alex who couldn't keep his mouth shut if his life depended on it, he just doesn't get it socially. They rely on kayla to keep him in check. (this I know for a fact, we've all seen him blurt and her react and him shut up) So I'm wondering if perhaps cps questioned the kids first, got some disturbing info, maybe sent cops to the apartment......and somewhere along the line got enough evidence to arrest katie and M. I don't believe for a second katie "sold" that computer or even threw it out. And neither of them are bright enough to be able to wipe a hard drive.......M told me he has several hard drives at his old foster mothers because he couldn't wipe them. (and that thought just popped up and I find it disturbing, wish I had the woman's number) My gut tells me if they got their hands on the laptop and console computer they'd have plenty of evidence. Even if you delete something it's still there, you just have to know how to retrieve it. But if alex is in foster care.......I'd think he'd probably mention it. Yet if he's sad or upset about it, maybe not. But it would explain why the apartment seems empty yet alex is in school. easy child asked how they could be in foster care and we not know it. And I told her all katie has to say is she doesn't want them coming to stay with us........at least until she completely loses her parental rights. Dunno what it is, but I've got that strong Momma "something is definitely up" thing going on. I'm hoping it means the cops and or cps are doing their jobs. I just don't have enough faith in the system to really get my hopes up that that is what has happened. Just sort of thinking out loud in type......putting it out there to see if I can make some sense out of what we've been seeing ect.